--===============1066986816== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2476555.uN9JmyETeT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart2476555.uN9JmyETeT Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday 05 August 2009 09:38:45 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > Somewhere along the line, too, we have to consider how we sell to those > > users that an alternative way of doing that particular thing has been (= or > > is being) done in a plasmoid. That's often the case. As far as I can > > see, if the desired end can be achieved the developer has done his job. > > It's then up to the user to learn a new way of working. > > agreed; there are three things i can think of that could be done as part = of > a multi-facet solution (though i'm not sure what mix would be best right > now): > > * post a clear list of things that will not be re-implemented and why; th= is > is FAQ material really and shouldn't be host for discussion. > > * write tutorials on the "KDE4 way" to get those things done > > * encourage people to look at the features that are new in KDE4, get them > looking forwards rather than backwards; right now i do fear that we spend= a > lot of time as a community looking over our shoulder. we need to do some = of > that, for sure, but probably not as much as we're doing now. unfortunatel= y, > our documentation on "stuff you can do with KDE4" is fairly slim due to i= ts > youthfulness. > > i assume the above is probably what you had in mind as well, or at least > similar? Pretty-well, yes. =20 1) WONTFIX list - why not a protected page on UserBase? It's quite possibl= e=20 to create a hidden page with the url posted to this list and left open for = a=20 week or some other agreed period, after which it is linked prominently from= =20 the Welcome Page or maybe the Intro to KDE page, at the same time as being= =20 marked Protected. From that date only sysops will be able to add material,= =20 but I could handle that. 2) We already have http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/KDE3toKDE4. This need= s=20 reviewing and updating, with additional information. I it gets too long I = can=20 split it into sections with linked pages. I really think this is the best= =20 place for it. 3) No real answer, other than to say that if we put 1) and 2) into place we= =20 can get them productive as quickly as possible, then hopefully have a bette= r=20 community feeling to enable us to get them looking forward. Like you, I've seen some converts - quite a few, actually - so I do believe= it=20 can be done. But not without planning and effort. I'm happy to work on=20 UserBase, but we need lots more people to contribute. At the moment a very= =20 few people are carrying the load - and this goes for Translators as well as= =20 contributors). And while we're at it, I *have* noticed the huge effort in translations by= =20 Qiii2006 and Claus_chr. They are doing a wonderful job. Anne =2D-=20 New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase --nextPart2476555.uN9JmyETeT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkp5S3EACgkQbMErw/n0TZq1SACcCgchVzDBleJZ6EK4/ebCmBO/ I7gAn2uvdAoOleuvtYGFcQiyDKnNRa9U =5aKv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2476555.uN9JmyETeT-- --===============1066986816== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe << --===============1066986816==--