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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE4: missing features from KDE3
From:       Anne Wilson <cannewilson () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2009-08-05 8:00:53
Message-ID: 200908050900.59103.cannewilson () googlemail ! com
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On Wednesday 05 August 2009 08:00:29 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 August 2009, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote:
> > Regression is a word that comes to my mind.
>
> not all features that were in kde3 and are not in kde4 are regressions,
> however. in fact, we're starting to get to the point where soon most of the
> "missing" features aren't regressions but purposeful changes in design.
>
Somewhere along the line, too, we have to consider how we sell to those users 
that an alternative way of doing that particular thing has been (or is being) 
done in a plasmoid.  That's often the case.  As far as I can see, if the 
desired end can be achieved the developer has done his job.  It's then up to 
the user to learn a new way of working.  You really CAN'T do anything about a 
totally closed mind that refuses to make any such change.

> kde4 is NOT kde3. we didn't set out to recreate everything in kde3, we set
> out to make something a bit different than kde3, attempting to make changes
> to make it better.
>
> long time users will not agree with all those changes. that doesn't make
> them regressions.
>
> classic example: the "show the wallpaper through the panel without
> compositing" feature in kicker. that was dropped quite purposefully because
> there are proper ways to achieve that which don't incur performance or
> configuration UI penalties and keep our code base clean as a bonus. some
> people tried to pose that as a regression, but it certainly isn't.

I am totally incredulous when I see people make a fuss about something that 
has so little impact on working efficiently.

Anne
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