From kde-devel Tue Aug 04 22:16:46 2009 From: "Aaron J. Seigo" Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:16:46 +0000 To: kde-devel Subject: Re: KDE4: missing features from KDE3 Message-Id: <200908041616.46791.aseigo () kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=124942434708545 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============1984570479==" --===============1984570479== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1893861.p78RO5phFM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1893861.p78RO5phFM Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday 04 August 2009, Parker Coates wrote: > Being a KDE contributor is like being part of a sports team. If a > player behaves inappropriately, his teammates can call him on it. Even > if he disagrees, he's likely change his behaviour to avoid losing face > with the team. If he doesn't the team can take corrective action by > letting him play less or kicking him off the team entirely. the problem is that i'm expected to and am trying to work with these people= =2E=20 they are not fans when they interact with me on bugs.kde.org, file somethin= g=20 on brainstorm or throw a list from a wiki at me, they are participants. with a fan, you can just ignore them in the stands. they aren't on the=20 sidelines trying to coach you or get you warmed up to go back on the field. now, if fans who have no responsibility or team connection happening are=20 allowed to participate, i guarantee you that many and probably even most=20 people who are part of the team will just leave that area. imagine if fans were allowed down into the coach's box in a sports game?=20 mayhem! and players would go somewhere else. now, i don't expect fans to get involved and participate and i'm just fine= =20 handling them "out there" beyond the playing field. i did that for years=20 during kde3. but what's happened is that they've stepped on to the playing= =20 field (we invited them to join us as members of the team) but are behaving= =20 like fans and are tolerated as such. so, i can say what does and doesn't work for a contributor, and the involve= d=20 user base can choose to ignore that. we will end up segregated more than ev= er. or ... we can build systems that reward positive contribution and build tea= m=20 spirit. brainstorm is a nice start to that; it needs workflow improvements, but at= =20 least it's collaborative, it's positive, it's easy for users to use and it= =20 looks pretty. we need to improve things like brainstorm and see more system= s=20 like it. the fans can continue to crow from the stands beyond. =2D-=20 Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software --nextPart1893861.p78RO5phFM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkp4s04ACgkQ1rcusafx20OjjQCghNEWtLY+NFjm0scjI2iJa2Zf JhkAn2qCi9UMPEgZlb5uHTzotd7jNgU4 =5f9m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1893861.p78RO5phFM-- --===============1984570479== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe << --===============1984570479==--