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On Tuesday 04 August 2009, Parker Coates wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 14:00, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > the user community is making a bed for itself that i don't think it's
> > going to want to lie in.
>
> I think more accurate portrayal might be "A relatively small number of
> ingrates is pissing in the bed the whole user community is forced to
> share."

when one developer does something unfortunate in public, it's the entire=20
project that is held responsible for it. that's probably fair, and it ensur=
es=20
that we care about keeping some level of support there for each other so th=
at=20
we are all on the same page and not making too many repeat mistakes. it als=
o=20
means that when one of us screws up (it happens, we're all human), a bunch =
of=20
us go into fix-it mode.

contrast this with the user situation.=20

when one (or a few) users do something unfortunate in public, it's always=20
"those few users". i don't buy that anymore.

there is a user community that revolves around KDE which has a lot of=20
interaction with us. they are a special group of people who care a lot abou=
t=20
f/oss and KDE in particular and spend time interacting with others in the K=
DE=20
world. that's undeniably GREAT.=20

but it's a community not unlike the developer community in terms of shared=
=20
responsibility and coherence.

right now the development community is expected to manage those users and=20
that's really not possible as it ends up exposing us-them lines (users -=20
developers), nor is it fair to the developers who are already fairly busy=20
making the software and managing the development community.

we have the community working group, and it's a great huge first step. it=20
would be awesome to see more of the involved user community start to take i=
nto=20
consideration that there's a shared responsibility here amongst all of thos=
e=20
people. if it's a few people pissing in the bed, those laying in that bed=20
ought to do something about it. if nobody does anything about it, then it=20
isn't just a few people pissing in the bed, it's everybody.

=2D-=20
Aaron J. Seigo
humru othro a kohnu se
GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA  EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43

KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Software

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