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Subject: Re: Open source vs Closed source... What makes Open Source tick.
From: viwe lolwane <ghostnet2000 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2009-07-30 7:22:38
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Individuals are unlikely to devote a considerable portion of their spare
time if the project is not viewed as winner,
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:20 AM, viwe lolwane <ghostnet2000@gmail.com>wrote:
> Ok Everybody is attacking me, now here is my response.
> Well in open source the disadvantage is , unless a project is viewed as a
> winner it will not attract and
> retain volunteers to work on that project. further more the members of an
> open source team must at
> all time made to feel that they are making a contribution. this at sometime
> can leave some of the parts
> of the software being left to gather dust without being maintained either
> because they are being seen as
> unattractive or useless. This bring me to my next point how many open
> source projects have been successful?
> Individuals are unlikely to devote a considerable portion of their spare
> time if the project is viewed as winner,
> from this I can asked a question did linus, believe that Linux will be
> widely utilized when he started the OS.
> I think he did not, maybe he did the point I m making here is how can you
> be sure that a project will be a winner.
> thats a hard question to answer.
>
> Well most of the post have attacked me via Microsoft Win32 API, I can not
> speak for microsoft and frankly I believe
> some of the things they did where stupid. but How every one knows that
> their API is crap, if they never seen the code, they
> never tested the code. Microsoft must have thousands of testers to perform
> inspections and walkthrough and correctness
> proving. One might never be sure that the product is 100% without defects,
> but microsoft OS must be closer to that.
>
> How many testers does KDE have? the numbers speak for themselves, how can
> you be certain that your application/SDK is without defects or is better
> that Microsoft OS? thats a question.
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Lindsay Mathieson <
> lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:48:40 +0200, Michael Rex <me@rexi.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Oh yeah, raw Win32 API is crap, I totally second that. I just recently
>> had
>> > the "fun" of having to work with that API, and it's a nightmare. Then
>> > again,
>> > even Microsoft seems to know that, or why would they have created things
>> > like
>> > MFC (though it's crap, too, but this time it's crap in an object
>> oriented
>>
>> > way :/ ) or .NET (bad Java ripoff, but finally a convenient way to write
>> > Windows apps).
>>
>>
>> If you're going to make unsupportable blanket statements like that then I
>> have to accuse you of trolling as well, not to mention not knowing what
>> you're talking about.
>>
>> Perhaps people could drop these childish flames against various sdk's
>> wasting the lists time etc and switch to constructive contributions?
>>
>> --
>> Lindsay Mathieson
>> http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home/
>>
>> >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
>> unsubscribe <<
>>
>
>
>
> --
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sorry line six must be:<div><br \
class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Individuals are unlikely to devote a \
considerable portion of their spare time if the project is <span \
class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">not</span> viewed as \
winner,<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:20 AM, viwe \
lolwane <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:ghostnet2000@gmail.com">ghostnet2000@gmail.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Ok Everybody is attacking me, now here is my \
response.<div><br></div><div>Well in open source the disadvantage is , unless a \
project is viewed as a winner it will not attract and</div><div> retain volunteers to \
work on that project. further more the members of an open source team must at \
</div><div>all time made to feel that they are making a contribution. this at \
sometime can leave some of the parts</div><div>
of the software being left to gather dust without being maintained either because \
they are being seen as </div><div>unattractive or useless. This bring me to my next \
point how many open source projects have been successful?</div>
<div>Individuals are unlikely to devote a considerable portion of their spare time \
if the project is viewed as winner,</div><div>from this I can asked a question did \
linus, believe that Linux will be widely utilized when he started the OS.</div>
<div>I think he did not, maybe he did the point I m making here is how can you be \
sure that a project will be a winner.</div><div>thats a hard question to \
answer.</div><div><br></div><div> Well most of the post have attacked me via \
Microsoft Win32 API, I can not speak for microsoft and frankly I \
believe</div><div>some of the things they did where stupid. but How every one knows \
that their API is crap, if they never seen the code, they</div>
<div>never tested the code. Microsoft must have thousands of testers to perform \
inspections and walkthrough and correctness</div><div>proving. One might never be \
sure that the product is 100% without defects, but microsoft OS must be closer to \
that.</div>
<div><br></div><div>How many testers does KDE have? the numbers speak for themselves, \
how can you be certain that your application/SDK is without defects or is better that \
Microsoft OS? thats a question.</div> <div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Lindsay Mathieson <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">lindsay.mathieson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div>On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:48:40 +0200, Michael Rex <<a \
href="mailto:me@rexi.org" target="_blank">me@rexi.org</a>> wrote:<br> <br>
> Oh yeah, raw Win32 API is crap, I totally second that. I just recently<br>
had<br>
> the "fun" of having to work with that API, and it's a nightmare. \
Then<br> > again,<br>
> even Microsoft seems to know that, or why would they have created things<br>
> like<br>
> MFC (though it's crap, too, but this time it's crap in an object \
oriented<br> <br>
> way :/ ) or .NET (bad Java ripoff, but finally a convenient way to write<br>
> Windows apps).<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>If you're going to make unsupportable blanket statements like that then \
I<br> have to accuse you of trolling as well, not to mention not knowing what<br>
you're talking about.<br>
<br>
Perhaps people could drop these childish flames against various sdk's<br>
wasting the lists time etc and switch to constructive contributions?<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
--<br>
Lindsay Mathieson<br>
<a href="http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home/" \
target="_blank">http://blackpaw.jalbum.net/home/</a><br> \
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unsubscribe <<<br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br \
clear="all"><br></div></div><div class="im">-- <br>viwe lolwane. <br>S A Square \
Kilometer Array Telescope<br><br>cell +2782 367 9417<br>Phone (w) :021 531 \
7282<br>Fax:021 531 9761<br>
Website: <a href="http://www.ska.ac.za" target="_blank">www.ska.ac.za</a><br>
</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>viwe lolwane. Intern<br>S A Square \
Kilometer Array Telescope<br><br>cell +2782 367 9417<br>Phone (w) :021 531 \
7282<br>Fax:021 531 9761<br>Website: <a \
href="http://www.ska.ac.za">www.ska.ac.za</a><br>
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