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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:57:26 +0000
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Subject: Re: Inconsistency - discussion
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Wouldn't be better to update and enforce the standards KDE shortcuts in
techbase [1]? I found this page quite useless when one day I asked in kopet=
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mailing list the reason why the shortcuts to change tabs are Ctrl+, and
Ctrl+. instead of Ctrl+PageUp and Ctrl+PageDown as listed in techbase. The
reason was: it's like this in Konqueror, so it's correct...

Discussing here is not the way to go IMO, we need to create a complete HIG
respected by developers, and a thread in a mailing list don't have high
visibility

[1] http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/Keyboard_Shortcuts

2009/6/2 Karl Ove Hufthammer <karl@huftis.org>

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> Karl Ove Hufthammer
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Wouldn&#39;t be better to update and enforce the standards KDE shortcuts in=
 techbase [1]? I found this page quite useless when one day I asked in kope=
te mailing list the reason why the shortcuts to change tabs are Ctrl+, and =
Ctrl+. instead of Ctrl+PageUp and Ctrl+PageDown as listed in techbase. The =
reason was: it&#39;s like this in Konqueror, so it&#39;s correct...<br>
<br>Discussing here is not the way to go IMO, we need to create a complete =
HIG respected by developers, and a thread in a mailing list don&#39;t have =
high visibility<br><br>[1] <a href=3D"http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usab=
ility/HIG/Keyboard_Shortcuts">http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HI=
G/Keyboard_Shortcuts</a><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/2 Karl Ove Hufthammer <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:karl@huftis.org">karl@huftis.org</a>&gt;</span><br=
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&gt; Why are there several places to configure input shortcuts (Input<br>
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<font color=3D"#888888">Karl Ove Hufthammer<br>
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