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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE 4.1 rc1 issues
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2008-06-01 5:22:47
Message-ID: 200805312322.57251.aseigo () kde ! org
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On Saturday 31 May 2008, Sami Liedes wrote:
> I tested KDE 4.1 rc1 from Debian experimental for a few hours,
> configuring it and just doing stuff I'd normally do, and here's a list
> of issues I found. I wasn't sure you would like me to file dozens of
> bugs, so here they are all for now, in no specific order.

thanks for the reports. i've commented on a few of them. it would be great to 
have grouped them as it was jumping between apps quite a bit. and yes, we 
would like you to file dozens of reports since these lists are just too easy to 
get lost on a list like this.

> 10. Some global shortcuts seem really weird, and it's not obvious
>     where they work. For example, "Go to KDE website", which is bound
>     to "E"(!)

i don't see this in my build here at all.

> 14. Some of the "global" shortcuts are very application specific, like
>     "Remap Ctrl-W to Ctrl-F4 in Qt Designer".
>       - see kb-shortcuts-components.png

well, yes. i'm not sure i see the issue here. perhaps it could be hidden, but 
that'd likely be a bunch more code for ....?

> 15. Is there a shortcut to open the K menu? Why can't I find it? At
>     least alt-F1 doesn't work.

it works as of today.

> 16. Is (manual) panel hiding gone? No more hide buttons in the edges
>     of the panel.

yep. you're actually the first person to ask for manual hiding back =) in any 
case, i'll have a patch for autohiding together that can be applied against 
4.1 and something for manual hiding for later.

> 17. In control center, mouse, "num pad" should perhaps be expanded to
>     "number pad".
>       - see control-mouse-num-pad.png

can't for 4.1 as we're in string freeze. remind us again in 4.2.

> 20. Configuring the number of desktops. It seems to me that this
>     should also be accessible from the control center, not only by
>     right-clicking pager. Or didn't I just find it?

given that other kwin specific modules, such as the desktop effects module, have 
been put into system settings, the desktop count one would as well i suppose. 
done...

> 22. Click the K menu, move mouse to Leave, move mouse down so it's on
>     the panel, click to close the menu, don't move mouse further,
>     click - while the pointer is above the task manager, clicks go to
>     the K menu button (or at least open the K menu). Only moving the
>     mouse highlights the window button below the mouse.

yes, this is due to a new and interesting interpretation of how events should 
work according to qgraphicsview. i understand technical underpinnings of it, 
feel it is rather broken and will eventually get to working around this 
particular issue. until then ... we deal.

> 29. K menu -> Utilities icon looks somewhat like a terminal. However
>     the terminal program, Konsole, is in System, which looks like a
>     cog wheel. This is confusing.

yes, this does seem a bit backwars doesn't it? =)

> 30. In the new style K menu, is the scrollbar the only way to scroll
>     it with a mouse without a scroll wheel? The scroll bar is so
>     narrow (well, a standard scroll bar) that this makes using the
>     menu without a wheel mouse very clumsy.

scrolling with the scroll wheel works for me in the various pages. what 
exactly are you trying to scroll and where?

> 37. In the alt-f2 run command interface, I think using the shade of
>     gray that is now used for completion is not good. It's too dark,
>     too close to the black text to tell quickly apart. Consider using
>     either lighter gray or some other color.

this is part of the standard autcomplete from klineedit. nothing to do with 
krunner. in any case, if it's any lighter it'll be rather difficult to read on 
many screens.

> 38. In the panel, the plug-in device icon is nondescriptive. It looks
>     like a laptop, doesn't immediately speak anything about
>     devices. Perhaps the semi-standard device icon could be used
>     instead?

i've been caught by that a couple times myself.

> 43. ksnapshot window titlebar says "[modified]" even when the current
>     snapshot has been saved.

fixed.

> 45. The task manager seems to take several seconds to react to
>     changing desktops using ctrl-F[1234].

several *seconds*? hm. what video card, version of x and what, if any, 
compositing effects do you have turned on?

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Aaron J. Seigo
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