From kde-devel Sun Jan 06 05:53:03 2008 From: "Joshua J. Berry" Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:53:03 +0000 To: kde-devel Subject: Re: KDE4, Ready to 11/01? Message-Id: <200801052153.15018.des () condordes ! net> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=119959885116672 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============1117667546==" --===============1117667546== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1311405.uS2IiIT9xj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1311405.uS2IiIT9xj Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 05 January 2008 13:35:24 Thiago Macieira wrote: > Joshua J. Berry wrote: > >Release quality? =C2=A0No way. > > Please read Aaron's blog for more information: > http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html I understand and agree with most of what Aaron is saying. I'm a developer= =20 by profession -- I understand there will always be bugs, more features to=20 add, etc. I understand there is a point at which you need to say, "it's=20 not perfect, but this is it". But there is always that question of where the line needs to be drawn, and= =20 IMO KDE has been over-eager to avoid E17's mistake of "release when it's=20 perfect^H^H^H^H^H^Hready". When you say "alpha", or "beta", or "release", you're making a statement=20 about what shape your software is in. You're saying, "I certify this=20 software is of this quality." Aaron doesn't say a single word about the=20 flip side of the "release early, release often" mantra -- which is if you=20 release TOO early, and you say something is of release quality when it's=20 not, you've damaged your reputation and people are less likely to take you= =20 seriously. I don't expect--and I doubt most people expect--that KDE 4.0 will be up to= =20 the same level of quality as KDE 3.5. Particularly with 3.5, my impression= =20 is KDE has built a reputation for producing full-featured, high-quality=20 software that is a pleasure to use. (At least, that's how *I* feel. ;) ) But the flipside is now you have a reputation to uphold. The KDE4 promise= =20 is huge, and I have little doubt you will follow through. But IMO 4.0.0=20 doesn't come anywhere close to living up to the quality standard set by the= =20 3.5 series, and by saying it's ready to go you are setting your users up=20 for disappointment. Regardless of your motivation for calling it 4.0.0, the simple fact is=20 you're calling it release-quality when it's not. I may be wrong, but I=20 think that is a mistake that will damage KDE's reputation. =2D- Josh =2D-=20 Joshua J. Berry "I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere." -- /usr/games/fortune --nextPart1311405.uS2IiIT9xj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkeAbMsACgkQaIxeYlQMsxvmhQCfWP6C0+UfNIbvLT0On8bjDyKU vMcAoIpZTs+j98olp2R2xdnQIisqLII8 =jYKF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1311405.uS2IiIT9xj-- --===============1117667546== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe << --===============1117667546==--