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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: feedback; bug reports
From:       riri <aishen () free ! fr>
Date:       2007-11-14 9:48:53
Message-ID: 473AC485.4050300 () free ! fr
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First thanks to all developpers for this marvellous : kde4 :)
I am retired and like linux, I use to work without enjoying at all on 
another platform, now I have little time to compile (that's all what i 
can do not to bad ) and sometimes translate in french or with my wife in 
chinese... As i convinced her open was a great thing ! lol
When i read such a mail I am very sad :)
World don't need big heads... They are enaugh... And they wont make 
world progressing...
Keep going on brave developpers and forgive those who can't have a 
little respect or consideration in a good work even if sometimes it has 
some "failures" i would say, fortunatly because that's the way we all 
progress :)
sorry for being long but i have some time, now :) lol
And i go back to my compilation...
king regards :)
Henri

James Richard Tyrer a écrit :
> David Jarvie wrote:
>   
>> On Saturday 10 November 2007 20:55:36 James Richard Tyrer wrote:
>>     
>>> David Faure wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Thursday 08 November 2007, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>>> If you don't want two modes, you are free to use only one of them for
>>>>>>  everything.
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Actually, I can't do this because of the fact that these two modes are
>>>>> in the code.  This is a poor design.
>>>>>           
>>>> Thanks for the kind words,
>>>>         
>>> Nothing kind or unkind intended by an objective statement about how to
>>> best design things.  As long as developers have too much ego invested in
>>> their code, this makes it difficult to improve it.
>>>       
>> But it isn't _necessary_ to be so blunt about things, and to word it as if 
>> your opinion cannot be questioned. It's _your_opinion_ that it's poor design, 
>> not necessarily an objective fact. Even if you're right about it, it could 
>> easily be said in a kinder way. one doesn't have to have a lot of ego 
>> invested in something to be upset by this way of saying things.
>>
>>     
> Actually, it isn't my opinion but rather what I was taught in 
> engineering school.
>
> Yes, I put it very bluntly, but I don't see how to say it in a kinder 
> way; is there a kinder word than 'poor'?  Mixing configuration data with 
> code is a poor design practice.  If you doubt that this is correct, 
> please do your own research on the subject.
>
> I am starting to feel as though I need to apologize for going to 
> engineering school and studying EE & CS.  I figure that my instructors 
> and the text books used were correct and I can pass this knowledge along 
> unless people think that what is taught in software engineering courses 
> in college had no validity and that they must learn it themselves by 
> trial and error.  There is a large body of knowledge on the subject and 
> it seems foolish to ignore it. I would hope that KDE developers have 
> read several books on programing and would already know that what I said 
> is true.
>
> Note that books on a language are not what I mean by books on programing 
> -- knowing a computer language is necessary, but not sufficient to know 
> how to write good programs.  This is also something which I was taught 
> in college.
>
>   

 
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