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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: feedback; bug reports
From:       David Faure <faure () kde ! org>
Date:       2007-11-07 11:55:08
Message-ID: 200711071255.08969.faure () kde ! org
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On Monday 05 November 2007, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> David Faure wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 November 2007, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> >> The Menu lists Konqueror with the description: "Web Browser" rather than 
> >> "Browser".  Does this misnomer really improve usability?
> > 
> > This menu item starts konqueror in web browser mode, so the description is correct.
> > 
> So, change the name of the "mode" to 'browser' as well!
> 
> Actually, there is no "web browser mode".  It would be nice if, since we 
> now have an actual file manager, if we could also eliminate this false 
> division based on the (default) profiles: filemanagement & webbrowsing.
> 
> Most (perhaps all) of the differences between the so-called modes is 
> based not on the profile but rather on the protocol being used to 
> display the content and/or the content.

Protocol is per view, window profile is per profile.
So the window profile cannot simply be dependent on the protocol: you could have tabs 
where you have a local directory in one, and a web page in another.

> This has lead to a great deal of confusion by users and a lot of useless 
> bug reports.  The use of "web" is part of the problem.  Survey question 
> for users: Do you use the web browser mode to access an FTP site?

Well the filemanagement mode is more appropriate for managing files, including over FTP
(so that you get your local dirs in the sidebar, for instance).
I don't see the problem, what people call the "web" is http pages. FTP is on internet, but it's not
the web, so it's unrelated to the web profile, so that's fine.

The only thing is that when clicking on a link from an http page to an ftp site you are
then still in the web browsing profile, but well, changing the whole window would be worse.

> Why do we continue with this false distinction?

There didn't use to be one, but then people complained about the GUI being bloated,
the Home button always going to the same place, the web bookmarks and the local bookmarks
being mixed up, etc. etc. And btw all that complaining back and forth about the GUI is the 
reason konqueror hacking is so not motivating. If I don't change anything people complain,
if I change anything people complain.

The current idea is to have -more- of that distinction, not less. If you don't want two modes,
you are free to use only one of them for everything.

-- 
David Faure, faure@kde.org, sponsored by Trolltech to work on KDE,
Konqueror (http://www.konqueror.org), and KOffice (http://www.koffice.org).
 
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