From kde-devel Tue Jun 06 15:34:45 2006 From: "Greg Martyn" Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:34:45 +0000 To: kde-devel Subject: KSysGuard renaming Message-Id: <6e0c99d0606060834i607ccf99gae379cdd63b1d2a9 () mail ! gmail ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=114960813725713 Last night on IRC, John Tapsell mentioned that he wanted to rename KSysGuard, and I immediately agreed. The new name was to be kde-system-monitor, undeniably influenced by gnome-system-monitor. Being that we are the current maintainers of KSysGuard and nobody on IRC objected, I went ahead and started making the change. IRC was definitely the wrong place to make that sort of decision, as was apparent from the emails that I got about it. I shouldn't have acted so quickly without having a full public discussion first, but I still think I was right ;-) Objections were of the following forms: 1. But think of the SVN history! Regardless of the validity of this complaint, the damage has already been done. It's not as bad as some may think though -- svn blame survives a svn mv, so the only lines affected are those that contain "ksysguard." (not to mention that svn blame can take a revision number as an argument) 2. This is totally inconsistent with the naming of other KDE applications. It is. I want to discuss this. 3. Think of the packagers! Even if we don't switch all the way over to kde-system-monitor, I think there is a strong argument for switching away from ksysguard. IIRC, 'guard' meant something in a non-English language, but that doesn't make it any less misleading to English speakers. I remember being confused that the "system guard" has nothing to do with backing up my files or protecting me from black hats. Guard -> Monitor is the logical choice. Google tells me that that ksysmon may be in use, but I can't find an actual ksysmon program to download. There is already a kicker applet that goes by "System Monitor", but by the time KDE4 comes out, I hope to have ksysguard's applet encapsulate System Monitor's behavior. Personally I think that gnome got it right with their gnome-something names. They are easy to guess (try typing 'gnome-'[tab][tab] for a nice list of the gnome system apps), self explanatory, and anyone without tab completion is used to suffering anyway. Even if you knew that you wanted to open KDE System Guard, would you know to type ksysguard? I think that it's time for a change. I do understand that things must be done the "kde way" here though, so I'm open to KDE-style names if we have to go that way. Thanks for your flames/comments, Greg Martyn >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe <<