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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE ABI stability?
From:       Thiago Macieira <thiago () kde ! org>
Date:       2005-12-05 10:44:59
Message-ID: 200512050845.09608.thiago () kde ! org
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Dan Kegel wrote:
>Looks pretty good.
>Section 4 should note that gcc-3.4 through gcc-4.1 share
>the same ABI (i.e. change gcc-4.0 to gcc-4.1).
>You should probably include text like this:

Changed.

>The <a href="http://www.codesourcery.com/cxx-abi">standard C++ ABI</a>
>was first implemented by
><a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.2/">gcc-3.2 (Aug 2002)</a>;
>ABI conformance bugs were found, and gcc's ABI was changed for
><a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.3/">gcc-3.3 (May 2003)</a>
>and <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/">gcc-3.4 (Apr 2004)</a>
>to comply with the standard.
>gcc's libstdc++ also affects binary compatibility; see
><a
> href="http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/abi.html">gcc.gnu.org/onl
>inedocs/libstdc++/abi.html</a>

Hmm... the gcc manual says gcc 3.2 and 3.3 share the same C++ ABI.

But I did write about libstdc++ as a dependency.

>Section 5 has a partial sentence:
>"Compiler flags may additionally lead to chang"

Rewritten.

>Section 6 needs to explain what 'make bcheck' does,
>and who should use it when.

We're waiting on someone who actually knows how it works.

>Also, since the LSB is an important way ABI compatibility
>will be ensured in the future, you should probably mention
>that KDE would like its libraries to be
>included in the LSB (see
>http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=LSB)
>but that there are licensing issues with Qt which complicate this
>(see http://www.linuxbase.org/futures/ideas/issues/libqt/)

I'd rather not discuss the LSB in policy pages. It's a lengthy subject and 
prone to heated discussions.

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