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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Kynaptics/Kicker/KCalc/KolourPaint user interface + Kubuntu
From:       "Gary L. Greene Jr." <greeneg () arklinux ! org>
Date:       2005-04-23 16:41:46
Message-ID: 200504231641.49538.greeneg () arklinux ! org
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On Saturday 23 April 2005 08:22 pm, Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> On 23.Apr 2005 - 14:41:16, Fred P. wrote:
> > >I understand that you might see this as a fob-off, however a mail on a
> > > list (especially a mail that is really long, contains a lot of only
> > > marginally related topics, perhaps a few misunderstandings and is at
> > > least somewhat subjective / ranty) isn't going to get very far to
> > > actually resolving the problem.
> >
> > I understand your point. The problem with bugzilla, I find is that barely
> > no ones
> > see it or review it from my own experience.
>
> I did not experience these things with kde's bugzilla. I do see some
> bugs which seem to be "inactive", but then not every bug is easily to
> reproduce, track down or fix....
>
> > The fact is, if the app developper doesn't care, nobody care
> > and the bugs are still there years after years after years...
>
> Sometimes bugs don't get closed because nobody "remembered" to, you can
> see quite a lot of bugs in kde's bugzilla that are rather old and not
> closed - even though you can't reproduce them with a current kde...
>
> > Also, having to fill 20 bugs one after the other is not very 'efficient'.
> >
> > Analogy: It's like going to the grocery store back and forth
> >              for every single article you have to buy...
>
> I don't think that you'll have to report those 20, very often a bug is
> already reported....
>
> > Now that was 20, what if I find 1000+ usability bugs?
>
> Sure, 1000+ usability bugs - if you find that many bugs in KDE, then
> _you_ are doing something wrong, or expecting the wrong thing.
>
> > >Also, we take patches.
> >
> > Yeah, I can provide you patches.... IF I CAN GET THE THING RUNNING!!!
> > Don't you think? ;-)
>
> No, you can provide patches to get it running too. No need to shout
> anyway.
>
> > Now, if you have another distro apart kubuntu that comes with KDE 3.4
> > out-of-the-box
> > with KDE developper tools, let me know. That would be way more useful.
>
> Hmm, Novell's Suse 9.3 has KDE3.4, there are kde3.4 packages for Debian
> sid, from the debian kde-qt-maintainers, which work pretty good.
>
> > >BTW: For what it is worth, I didn't see any of those issues when I
> > > installed kubuntu on a ia32 test box.
> >
> > Well, I installed kubuntu on a P4 (ia32), did you use kynaptics?
>
> Only kubuntu people can use kynaptics, because it's not an official kde
> app. At least not in Debian and I can't find it in google either...
>
> > The problem was that dpkg 'screw up' and that the information could get
> > upward to the calling process 'kynaptics', so kynaptics got frozen, [x]
> > didn't work.
>
> That's why I don't really like GUI-Apps for Package-Management, TUI is
> enough already.
>
> > Also, where is the kynaptics bugzilla or maintainer ?!!!!
>
> Ask the kubuntu people, they probably rewrote synaptics using KDE (I
> guess from the name).
>
> Andreas

Actually it's a part of the CVS tree for Synaptic.

-- 
Gary L. Greene, Jr.
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