--===============1744454127== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8054934.IV3vVpY95N"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart8054934.IV3vVpY95N Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 15 March 2005 11:56, Dirk Mueller wrote: > On Tuesday 15 March 2005 17:15, Fred P. wrote: > > - It's more important to have developpers than users. > > [KDE can evolve with developpers, but can't without them] > > Which is wrong.. KDE can not evolve without users. developers don't fall > from the sky.. they're users first, and they're dissatisfied with somethi= ng > but still like the concept, so they start modifying things. Thats how > opensource works. Yeah, I agree. Where would KDE get new developers if it would not get new = =20 (power) users? KDE has a great framework and cool community. Users don't=20 necessarily have to be dissatisfied to start contributing to development of= =20 the desktop or any other part of KDE as a whole.=20 I for one, consider KDE (and Linux) the best thing that ever happened to me= =20 computerwise, and don't mind sharing the cute wonders and cool features of= =20 KDE with anybody who wants to give it a try. Potential enthusiasts are=20 potential users are potential contributors are potential developers ;). =46urthermore, I don't think donations for precise bugs would really help. = I do=20 think that KDE would benefit from more full-time developers, promo-people,= =20 etc. I'm sensing a Robots vibe here - "See a need, fill a need...?" Perhaps someone can help me on this: Starter B.Sc. engineering job as project admin: approx. $35,000 a year Starter M.Sc. engineering job as project admin: approx. $50,000 a year=20 KDE servers, promo material, etc.: approx. $15,000 a year ?? How large is the worldwide KDE community? Definitely over a 100,000 users I= 'd=20 say. If everybody would donate say $5 a month, so $60 a year, wouldn't we=20 already have $6,000,000 a year to spend on full-time developers, material a= nd=20 people that are needed for supporting the project, such as a webmaster,=20 promo-team etc.?=20 Who should be the full time developers? People can formally apply via kde.o= rg=20 and present their resum=C3=A9 and a letter of motivation. Criteria? A prett= y=20 conventional list of requirements: work experience, qualifications, obvious= =20 dedication and motivation, and social skills. I would start of with the=20 project coordinators for core KDE parts if they want to. Who should decide?= =20 Perhaps the community via a tightly secured voting system? As we can all see, people don't mind paying, as long as they have the feeli= ng=20 that they get their money's worth. (Example: I'm all excited about the=20 upcoming SuSE 9.3 release and can hardly wait to tear open that new box of= =20 goodies, that will even include KDE 3.4!)=20 Obviously, a lot of KDE developers would not mind working on the KDE projec= t=20 to make a decent living or just as a side job. Does anybody think it would = be=20 possible to achieve something like this? Just a thought that crossed my=20 mind... Kind regards, Claire --nextPart8054934.IV3vVpY95N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCN4yFWQA+g30fSgERAsbjAJ9088CCO0d3PhijoHPFsfJ8eDL/PwCdEH8l uod5m4Z8A5NsnywXByloMxk= =+pJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8054934.IV3vVpY95N-- --===============1744454127== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe << --===============1744454127==--