From kde-devel  Thu Feb 10 20:31:36 2005
From: Lauri Watts <lauri () kde ! org>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:31:36 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: Questions about splitting kdebase into a plethora of packages
Message-Id: <200502102131.38859.lauri () kde ! org>
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On Thursday 10 February 2005 12.59, Isaac Clerencia wrote:
> On Thursday, 10 de February de 2005 00:14, Lokheed wrote:
> > Here is a small fraction of the packges that are now available:
> > ...
>
> Just FYI we create these packages in Debian from kdebase:
> libkonq4-dev, kicker, kcontrol, ksplash, klipper, kdebase-dev, kmenuedit,
> kpersonalizer, kdebase, kdepasswd, kwin, kdebase-bin, kdeprint, kappfinde=
r,
> kdm, kdebase-data, konqueror, kfind, kdesktop, ksmserver,
> kdebase-kio-plugins, ksysguard, kate, xfonts-konsole, konqueror-nsplugins,
> kdebase-doc, khelpcenter, kpager, libkonq4, ktip, ksysguardd, konsole

And debian has historically generated far out of proportion numbers of supp=
ort=20
issues about missing dependencies, or users not knowing what to install to=
=20
get a specific item on KDE IRC channels at least.  Oddly not really on the=
=20
mailing lists or newsgroups, I suppose people writing mail tend to direct=20
those to the debian lists.

Immediately noticeable with the split ebuilds, the number of gentoo users=20
showing up with questions shot up sharply (and equally noticeable that some=
=20
became quite aggressive when directed to ask their questions re dependencie=
s=20
to Gentoo forums.)  It should be made *VERY* clear upon install that=20
splitting of the packages is a gentoo decision, and the gentoo packagers ar=
e=20
responsible for supporting the issues it causes.

I will further note that many of those package names are very odd=20
(kde-base/kenolaba? eh?) and will only serve to further confuse users (and=
=20
people providing support) about what comes from where, and depends on what.

Personally I think it's unmaintainable insanity, and that's talking as a=20
packager for a broadly similar packaging system, as well as someone who=20
spends some time supporting users.

Regards,
=2D-=20
Lauri Watts
KDE Documentation: http://docs.kde.org
KDE on FreeBSD: http://freebsd.kde.org

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