From kde-devel Thu Feb 10 13:53:05 2005 From: Helio Chissini de Castro Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:53:05 +0000 To: kde-devel Subject: Re: Questions about splitting kdebase into a plethora of packages Message-Id: <200502101153.08185.helio () kde ! org> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=110804364322308 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============1675181064==" --===============1675181064== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1530758.qGZXDJ5o4h"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --nextPart1530758.qGZXDJ5o4h Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello=20 Conectiva did this since Conectiva 8, in 2003.and this is a policy extended= =20 for any package on distribution. You can see our kde layout on=20 ftp://ftp.conectiva.com.br/pub/conectiva/snapshot/i386/RPMS.kde/ Eve i18n packages are splitted. Full tree generates more than 4000 packages= =20 just to i18n []'s Em Qua 09 Fev 2005 21:14, Lokheed escreveu: > Recently my distro (Gentoo) has taken it upon themselves to split > KDEBASE into 200+ packges. Portage (the package manager) runs off > ebuilds and several hundred were made that effectively allows a user > to install various programs and components of KDEBASE without the need > to install the whole program. > > They have also decided not to support the offical release (KDEBASE) > and instead rely on these split ebuilds for installation. > > I have growing concern that this will cause problems in KDE and its > functionality along with its stability. > > Here is a small fraction of the packges that are now available: > > =3Dkde-base/kcontrol-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebase-applnk-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebase-l10n-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebase-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebase-pics-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebindings-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdebugdialog-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdeedu-applnk-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdeedu-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdegames-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdegraphics-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdejava-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdelibs-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdelirc-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdemultimedia-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdenetwork-filesharing-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdenetwork-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdepasswd-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdepim-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdepim-kresources-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdepim-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdepim-wizards-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdeprint-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdesdk-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdesdk-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdesdk-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdesdk-misc-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdesdk-scripts-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdesktop-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdesu-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdetoys-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdeutils-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdewebdev-meta-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdf-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdialog-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdict-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdm-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdnssd-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kdvi-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kedit-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/keduca-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kenolaba-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfax-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfile-desktop-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfile-folder-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfile-html-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfile-lnk-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfile-txt-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfilereplace-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfind-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfloppy-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kfouleggs-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kgamma-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kget-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kghostview-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kgoldrunner-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/kgpg-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/khangman-3.4.0_beta2 > =3Dkde-base/khelpcenter-3.4.0_beta2 > > > I would really like the opinion of the KDE devs on whether this is a > sound practise or even a sound decision. I am an inexperienced coder > and just started taking programming so many concepts are over my head > but my concern about the stability of KDE in Gentoo is shaken to say > the least. > > My biggest concern is the fact that KDE may need certain programs > (like kcontrol, among others) to run error free. Kcontrol happens to > be a seperate ebuild so using the new Gentoo system, it is not a > required install. > > Is this new method safe and my worry based on nothing? Any guidance > into the subject would be greatly appreciated as I am getting nothing > but closed doors and insults from the Gentoo devs I raise my concerns too. > > Thank you, > > Lokheed > > >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to > >> unsubscribe << =2D-=20 Helio Chissini de Castro KDE Project South America Primary Contact Curitiba - Brasil --nextPart1530758.qGZXDJ5o4h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCC2dE8KVbYLGVrvcRAiUWAJ9xNEbntBDFGrkoKI62mPcLjFkUnACeIFvz WR1Ff1B855boQMpSdL4L0AU= =Fa4P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1530758.qGZXDJ5o4h-- --===============1675181064== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe << --===============1675181064==--