From kde-devel  Wed Feb 09 23:14:28 2005
From: Lokheed <lokheed () gmail ! com>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:14:28 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Questions about splitting kdebase into a plethora of packages
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Recently my distro (Gentoo) has taken it upon themselves to split 
KDEBASE into 200+ packges. Portage (the package manager) runs off 
ebuilds and several hundred were made that effectively allows a user 
to install various programs and components of KDEBASE without the need 
to install the whole program.

They have also decided not to support the offical release (KDEBASE) 
and instead rely on these split ebuilds for installation.

I have growing concern that this will cause problems in KDE and its 
functionality along with its stability.

Here is a small fraction of the packges that are now available:

=kde-base/kcontrol-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebase-applnk-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebase-l10n-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebase-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebase-pics-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebindings-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdebugdialog-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdeedu-applnk-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdeedu-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdegames-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdegraphics-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdejava-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdelirc-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdemultimedia-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdenetwork-filesharing-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdenetwork-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdenetwork-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdepasswd-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdepim-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdepim-kresources-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdepim-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdepim-wizards-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdeprint-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdesdk-kfile-plugins-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdesdk-kioslaves-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdesdk-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdesdk-misc-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdesdk-scripts-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdesktop-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdesu-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdetoys-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdeutils-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdewebdev-meta-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdf-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdialog-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdict-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdm-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdnssd-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kdvi-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kedit-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/keduca-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kenolaba-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfax-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfile-desktop-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfile-folder-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfile-html-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfile-lnk-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfile-txt-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfilereplace-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfind-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfloppy-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kfouleggs-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kgamma-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kget-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kghostview-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kgoldrunner-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/kgpg-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/khangman-3.4.0_beta2
=kde-base/khelpcenter-3.4.0_beta2


I would really like the opinion of the KDE devs on whether this is a 
sound practise or even a sound decision. I am an inexperienced coder 
and just started taking programming so many concepts are over my head 
but my concern about the stability of KDE in Gentoo is shaken to say 
the least.

My biggest concern is the fact that KDE may need certain programs 
(like kcontrol, among others) to run error free. Kcontrol happens to 
be a seperate ebuild so using the new Gentoo system, it is not a 
required install.

Is this new method safe and my worry based on nothing? Any guidance 
into the subject would be greatly appreciated as I am getting nothing 
but closed doors and insults from the Gentoo devs I raise my concerns too.

Thank you,

Lokheed
 
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