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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: K-Menu (Expanding Kicker) - Icon Size
From:       Mark Miller <mirell () gmail ! com>
Date:       2004-11-30 11:54:53
Message-ID: 5d3341c0041130035473348484 () mail ! gmail ! com
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> > Yes, because it still seems to be rampant that the end user is not the
> > person at times which developers are coding for.
> 
> Ah. A common misconception. Usually, a developer will code for any or all of
> three reasons:
> 1. Survival++ (i.e. money)
> 2. Personal use (I need clipbord history with >256 items)
> 3. Emotional payment, i.e. ideology, fun, group participation etc.
> 
> End-users do not figure, except indirectly in 1) and 3). As you do not seem to
> be the type to give 3), you won't get any further in this discussion.

Don't you think this is one of the issues of Linux on the Desktop
then? How will this ever take off if the developers of the software
don't take into account the end user?

I've talked with Rob about work he has done with doing the bzip2 code
for the Linux Kernel and uclibc/busybox. He does that as a means of
actually avoiding doing real work (His graduate studies)

I've been working on doing Perl modules to be able to interface with
VisaNet, and then communicate to a VisaNet modem by generating a
digital representation of a 300 baud modem via software means,
spitting it out an Asterisk router via VoIP, and authorizing a credit
card transaction.

That stuff is just fun. This is also, not user interface related. This
is for programmers, and Linux kernel hackers.

However, KDE is a rather specific niche in the software development
community. So does OpenOffice and gaim in these respects.

The User Interface is something that everyone has to deal with. KDE is
one giant User Interface. If developers don't take into account the
end user when coding these specific things, then this leads to _bad_
things.

I believe KDE is a great piece of software. I just has some
improvements that need to be made, to be able to serve as a drop-in
replacement for Windows, being the closest to it, along with gnome. I
certainly wouldn't want to suggest to the person who transistions from
Windows to Linux to use WindowMaker/FluxBox, et cetera.

I personally like KDE from all other Window Managers. It does mostly
what I want.
 
> However, file a wish if it is not already in bugs.kde.org, and someday some
> developer will think it cool to implement, and do so. That is more than
> commercial vendors offer, and all that you can expect for nothing, really.

Yes, it is more than commercial vendors offer, and I am appreciative
of that, having filed bug reports with Gentoo about various ebuilds.

I just thought mailing the development list was still acceptable.
Evidently I am wrong.
 
> --
> regards, Esben
> 
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Mark A. Miller
mark@mirell.org
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