From kde-devel  Fri Oct 22 18:37:47 2004
From: Aaron Seigo <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:37:47 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: Proposal to implement autohide in systemtray.
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On October 22, 2004 11:43, David H=C3=A9not wrote:
> inactivity-based system is a bit frustrating. For example I may want
> for a particular icon to be never hidden, so I'm able to quickly know
> the application is running or not, and when I use a hidden icon I
> don't want it to wait for several minutes before it is hidden again.
> Impossible with a XP-like systray.

i generally agree with this. i think we'll end up with a "both/and" approac=
h=20
where the user can set policies if they wish (always show, never show, Do T=
he=20
Right Thing(tm) (aka DTRT, which would be the default)) and allow the=20
applications and systray to interact better to DTRT, which goes beyond just=
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hide and show as well...

> It adds a configuration dialog to the systray applet with the list of
> currently active systray icons and you can put them in the hide list.
> This configuration is saved so you don't have to manualy re-hide the
> icon next time it is added to the systray. When some icons are hidden
> you get a button to show/hide these icons.
>
> Let me know what you think about it.

i do see that it doesn't follow the coding style in kdebase/kicker/HACKING.

i'd also prefer it if the dialog used a Qt designer file. yes, it's a very=
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simple UI but i'm trying to discourage the addition of more hand-coded stuf=
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there.

the button that appears in the system tray is rather ugly, too =3D) we'd ha=
ve to=20
find something that not only looks a bit nicer but also is visually distinc=
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from the the tray icons themselves.

one these things are addressed i'm ammenable to this being added to the=20
systray.

> > btw, sometime before 3.2 or 3.1 i implemented the ability to
> > hide/autohide icons in the system tray. but because the systray doesn't
> > actually control the icons they would re-appear at the controling
> > application's whim and do other crazy and annoying things.
>
> Do you have an example which causes this ?

i forget the exact cases i discovered, but then i was doing something a bit=
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more ambitious than simply "don't EVER show this icon" ;-) we can implement=
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the "don't ever show" stuff today and do the automatic fancy stuff later wh=
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the systray protocol is more expressive.

=2D-=20
Aaron J. Seigo
Society is Geometric

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