On Tuesday 14 of September 2004 03:52, Alex wrote: > > No, it's intentional that you now cannot move a window in such a way > > that you'd be unable to move it back the same way > > On M$ windows, you can move the titlebar up to the point where only a > single line of pixels is left at the top, so you can always > move a window back. > Why is this a problem for KDE ? I'm using my old KDE 3.1 right now > and there's no way I can make the titlebar completely gone if I move a > window by the titlebar, so there is no problem to begin with! Piece of cake. Just place your Kicker at the top edge, or use the standalone menubar (#22606). That said, if you can't make the titlebar completely gone if you move a window by the titlebar, why is then a problem that KWin prevents you from doing something that you say you can't do anyway? > > Use Alt+LMB or any other way which doesn't depend on the titlebar > > There is no other way. Even right click on the bottom border, and > selecting "Move" from the menu does not allow me to cross the top desktop > barrier! Hmm. There are certain technical difficulties finding out how a menuentry was actually activated. > Only pressing ALT works. It's very annoying to have to reach for the > keyboard to move a window in the way I need! This the first time ever a > window manager is imposing this! > KDE 3.1 was perfect in terms of moving windows, I don't understand why > spoil a good thing like that in KDE 3.2 ! Please consider reverting to the > good old behavior that is supported by all other window managers and all > KDE versions before 3.2 So I should also dump focus stealing prevention just because it's not the goold old behavior that is supported by all other window managers and all KDE versions before 3.2? > > > now of course since one cannot please everyone there are other complains > > How about offering an option in the control panel window behavior to > disable this "feature". That would be a way please everyone ! I guess I could, most probably in the "Actions" dialog. Nobody is going to notice one more option there anyway. -- Lubos Lunak KDE developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org Drahobejlova 27 tel: +420 2 9654 2373 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 2 9654 2374 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscribe <<