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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: added debug areas
From:       Shaheed <srhaque () iee ! org>
Date:       2003-10-13 18:50:10
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Well, I have to say that I had no idea that debug areas were only for 
libraries. My previous experience was with KOffice which certainly does have 
such areas for apps.

>All it means is a bigger 
>kdebug.areas file too parse on startup and bigger log files. šYes, mine is 
>presently 300MB - less than a week old.

Then use kdebugdialog to switch off the areas you don't care about! I cannot 
believe that parsing a 12K line oriented text file is a significant hit to 
any KDE application. On my system:

[srhaque@chiswick kdelibs]$ time grep viki kdecore/kdebug.areas
100300       viki
0.00user 0.00system 0:00.00elapsed 0%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
0inputs+0outputs (154major+24minor)pagefaults 0swaps

...and that includes pagefaults, image activation and everything else.

If the consensus is that they are not needed, then I'll go along with such a 
communal decision, but I do think it is the wrong decision. Reasonably fine 
grained error reporting is essential in a large code base where my code might 
be a standaone app today, but will be a library tomorrow.

Also, the issue as to whether distributions enable debug or not is a red 
herring: they should, but configure them off by default. Count the number of 
unix command line utilties with a -d flag to see that I am not the only one 
that thinks that optional debug support in the field is essential.

Thanks, Shaheed
 
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