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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Enhanced MacOS style top menu bar
From:       "S.G.R.Nijssen" <snijssen () liacs ! nl>
Date:       2003-03-12 13:36:45
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It's interesting to see how my applet is getting attention again!
I agree with the arguments that were given. I liked making this 
applet, but I didn't have the time to maintain it and therefore didn't
want to force it to KDE. 

> If the author isn't willing to maintain it in CVS, I'll step forward 
> and offer to do so. 

Well, that is good news! 

> The patches to kmenubar.{h,cpp} are simple, easy to 
> understand, and clean. The menubar applet itself is something a friend 
> of mine and I are hacking on tonight, but it ought to be ready for 
> inclusion (unless someone else objects) inside of a week.

I am very interested in what you're doing and look forward to your
changes. Please contact me if you have any questions regarding my code.
There were some issues with respect to its integration with the window
manager, Lubos Lunak told me in september in response to my original
announcement. Perhaps you could also coordinate your changes with him.

Siegfried.

> >> SadEagle and I discussed this. I also have an implementation but it 
> >> had
> >> problems, mostly because I tried to do it without modifying KMenuBar.
> >>
> >> If this looks good to you guys I'd commit it if it's okay with the 
> >> author.
> >> Otherwise we can look at improving it. I don't think mine will ever 
> >> work
> >> right :/
> >
> > Go ahead and try to make the original author maintain it in CVS :-) 
> > Otherwise
> > we'll end up with one more part not having someone responsible for it 
> > in our
> > CVS (doesn't matter if it's a limited area, but would be nice if the 
> > original
> > authors would favor to maintain it there).
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> >>
> >> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 5:59 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> >>> On Dienstag, 11. März 2003 19:27, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> if you follow this link
> >>>>   http://www.liacs.nl/home/snijssen/kmenuapplet/
> >>>> you will find the code of someone who took his time to code 
> >>>> something
> >>>> along that line (fetched out of my bookmarks, in the folder
> >>>> "interesting additions").
> >>>
> >>> Nice thing.
> >>>
> >>>> But don't ask me why it has never been included into KDE mainstream.
> >>>> Maybe the author didn't do enough promotion or did it at noisy 
> >>>> times.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to have it in KDE, too. This way the MACOS-styled bar
> >>>> makes more sense to me. For small resolutions there would be really 
> >>>> a
> >>>> gain in screen space.
> >>>> If I understood the GNOME screenshots correctly they already have 
> >>>> such
> >>>> a MAC-style top bar (search below http://www.gnome.org/start/2.2), 
> >>>> so
> >>>> there shouldn't be any legal conflicts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Taking your email as a raiser I will copy this to KDE-Devel and the
> >>>> author, Siegfried Nijssen, and ask my question now publically:
> >>>>
> >>>> Why has this kmenuapplet never been added to KDE?
> >>>
> >>> Because noone ever asked for it ? If an applet or a program is 
> >>> extremely
> >>> useful we sometimes ask the author if he won't want to include it 
> >>> into
> >>> KDE, if noone of us asks then that's not going to happen (or the
> >>> developer comes up and wants to have it included, that's the other
> >>> possibility).
> >>>
> >>> Ralf
> >>>
> >>>> Friedrich
> >>>>
> >>>> Pedro Palhoto Matos wrote:
> >>>>> The top bar is really useful in saving up space with various 
> >>>>> windows,
> >>>>> though it could seriously get some enhanced features:
> >>>>> - clock;
> >>>>> - Kmenu and
> >>>>> - program list (with hide/show capabilities).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Use MacOS 7 to 9 to get the idea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I only use the windows style task bar because those features are
> >>>>> missing in the common upper menu bar.
> >>>>>
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> > Ralf Nolden
> > nolden@kde.org
> >
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