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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Building some KDE packages for RULE
From:       Eric Laffoon <sequitur () easystreet ! com>
Date:       2003-03-01 6:30:58
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Hi,
if you want to do Quanta then I really doubt you want to start with a Red Hat 
source RPM. The problem I've had with support is that they packaged our 3.0 
pr1 and it was _NEVER_ meant for distribution, only to fill a gap until a 
final release could be made. If you're already going to be making RPMs it's 
not that much more difficult to start with source. I would highly recommend 
picking up either 3.1.1, a clean CVS build (most days are) or a build from 
the 3.1 branch. 

Here's why. The parser in 3.0 was adequate for smaller files and reasonable 
systems but quickly caused problems on large files. 3.1 was improved. Shortly 
after the 3.1 release Andras had finished an extensive resource and speed 
refinement. Not only does Quanta use very little cpu time but the parser is 
orders of magnitude faster. It parses rediculously large files between keys 
strokes and with optimizations to reparse only the relevent node it will be 
very impressive. I'm not sure if the optimizations are complete or how 
backporting has gone but I would target a newer build for sure.

Cheers,

On Friday 28 February 2003 12:42 am, Marco Fioretti wrote:
> Greetings
>
> As some of you may know, I am the current coordinator of the RULE
> project
> (http://www.rule-project.org/en/ ).
>
> One of the things we aim to do is to find, package as RPM if needed,
> and list to our users the most efficient applications (in terms of CPU
> speed, RAM needs, etc..) in every area.
>
> Recently, I have heard several people saying that KDE 3.1 is much
> faster than previous releases, and have partially seen it myself. For
> this reason, and also because I'm personally curious to know a bit
> more about KDE, I'd like to try to make RPM packages for Red Hat 8.0
> of the following KDE 3.1 components and *NOTHING* else:
>
>    Qt
>    Konqueror
>    Kmail
>    KOffice
>    (maybe) Quanta
>
> These applications should be packaged to give the maximum possible
> performance sacrificing appearance to real functionality. In other
> words,
>
> I want to keep:
>
>        support via xft2/fontconfig for Asian languages
>        HTML 4.x, https, JavaScript, IMAP, SMTP/POP3, GPG...
>        image thumbnails in Konqueror when used as a file manager
>        no other applications packaged/placed on the system
>
> I want to remove
>
>        eye candy: I don't care if the result is not themeable, 16
>        colors icons are OK, if visual effects are removed, if there is
>        no sound when windows are opened, all this kind of things
>
>        things like man:// urls, which can be done almost with the same
>        functionality and output from the command line
>
>        everything else?? (maybe some configuration option?)
>
> and then, I want to see what the result looks like, and if and how
> much it is smaller/faster than the default version. I also need to
> rebuild all that stuff, starting from Qt, in some local directory, so
> it cannot mess up the default KDE/Red Hat installation, and I can
> compare the two versions on the same machine.
>
> Now the real questions: I plan to download the source RPMs from
> kde-redhat.sourceforge.net, because they have been already used on RH
> 8.0, so a lot of work has been done.
>
>      Wh
> ted?
>
>      How should I modify the Makefiles and/or the spec files? Ideas,
> anybody? (include in this an installation side by side, from Qt upwards,
> with "standard" KDE on RH, see above)
>
> Let me repeat that right now this is just a pet project, an excuse to
> start knowing KDE structure. Point out firmly but kindly, please, any
> idiocy I might have said/assumed here.
>
> Thank you in advance for any feedback,
>
>       Marco Fioretti
>
> -- Marco Fioretti m.fioretti, at the server inwind.it Red Hat for low
> memory http://www.rule-project.org/en/
>
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