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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Ui enhancements
From:       "Luke Chatburn" <lchatburn () isset ! org>
Date:       2003-01-23 20:39:47
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Hi Laur...

I'm sorry... I'm afraid I probably wasn't being quite clear in what I
wrote...

A distinct shadow effect of some kind is definitely a good idea, but XP and
OSX employ a drop shadow rather than a glow such as the one that you have
created. Either way is preferable to no text effect at all, and while the
drop shadow is more subtle and less intrusive, the glow does provide a
greater level of distinction... So it really depends which you are aiming
for. Personally, I prefer the drop shadow, but that is just me :)

-Luke

----- Original Message -----
From: "Laur Ivan" <laur.ivan@corvil.com>
To: <kde-devel@kde.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Ui enhancements


> On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 19:24, Luke Chatburn wrote:
> > Hi Laur...
> >
> > >From the perspective of someone who does a little graphic design I
would
> > advised a little tweak to what you have so far... While I understand you
are
> > aiming for clarity, you should consider adding a variable for angle and
> > offset from text. In this way, you can also add drop shadows to text,
which
> > is usually highly beneficial visually.
> In the case of a drop shadow, the algorithm's params should be slightly
> changed (or even the algorithm itself).
> >
> > Long term, however, an outline effect such as the one you have devised
will
> > get on your nerves... :-/
> Well, with your permission, I'll disagree on this point. When using XP,
> I found the blur behind the text quite helpful. Especially with aliased
> text...
> >
> > How are you constructing the final rendered text, by the way? Is it
taking
> > advantage of existing functions, or is it a dilation + blur?
> AFAIK, the existing functions in kde are icon/pixmap related and it
> would be relatively difficult to implement a proper blur with them.
> Consequently, I thought that hardcoding an algorithm wouldn't be such a
> bad idea and its CPU impact on small surfaces would be negligeable.
> also, the shaddow is computed iff the text has been changed. Otherwise,
> it's just rendered from memory.
>
> >
> > I'm sure there are a few more things that could be done with this,
perhaps to
> > benefit accessibility... :) Good work :)
> Yup. I'll check on Friedrich's idea of creating a KTextEffect class
> somewhere in libs to handle this kind of methods.
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Laur
>
> >
> > -Luke Chatburn
> >
> >
> > On Thursday 23 Jan 2003 6:30 pm, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
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> > > On Thursday 23 January 2003 08:01, Laur Ivan wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > My name is Laur Ivan and I've coded a couple of visual enhancements
for
> > > > KDE (http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4750). Can you
please
> > > > have a look and tell me what you think?
> > >
> > > unified diffs would be nice.
> > >
> > > for the kicker menubutton arrows: those are already drawn in
accordance to
> > > the style, as you noted... and IMO it should stay that way, at least
by
> > > default. i can see perhaps allowing it to be overriden by a specially
> > > named/located pixmap, but that sounds a lot like bloat to me =/ hard
to say
> > > w/out seeing the patches really...
> > >
> > > > ...and a question: Would the moving from private: to protected: of
the
> > > > "KWordWrap* m_wordWrap" in KIconViewItem keep the binary
> > > > compatibility..? (wishful thinking...)
> > >
> > > if access is needed to it, how about a protected wordWrap() accessor?
this
> > > would preserve BC...
> > >
> > > - --
> > > Aaron J. Seigo
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> > > "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
> > >     - Albert Einstein
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