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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: [Kopete-devel] kdenonbeta/kopete/protocols
From:       Benjamin Meyer <ben () meyerhome ! net>
Date:       2003-01-03 6:12:48
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> Sorry, I didn't know Kinkatta was still around. I enquired as to a KDE3
> port and was told Kinkatta was dead (can't remember who by tho),
> *shrug*.

Well it isn't dead.  I got it to 1.0 status and am happy with it.  Creating 
the embedded version and porting it to kde3 was really the only things I have 
done to it in the last year.  Hardly news worthy.  Begs the question though.  
If something isn't activly developed, but works is it dead?

> AOL threatened to sue you? Fun. Was it for a name violation? They
> haven't gone after anyone for OSCAR support, including GAIM.

It was for the name violation + anything else.  They baggered me for about a 
year to make sure I complied with "anything else".  Finally I simply got them 
to say that I was ok.  Sufice it to say it was more then I ever cared to have 
happen  for something that I worked on in my spare time.  I don't plan on 
extending Kinkatta all that much due to AOL (CVS does have plugin support and 
many other cool things for those that care).  I don't really like that all my 
hard work in my spare time can be pulled at a whim of aol if they really 
wanted.  I don't see how supporting any closed protocal is good in the long 
run.  So if I ever do create/work on another im client it will be a jabber 
client which has its own protocal and can connect to the other protocals 
secondary.

-Benjamin Meyer

> > Honestly I don't really see the point of including anything other then a
> > Jabber client in KDE.
>
> I do, and I'm the author of the Jabber plugin in Kopete. While
> transports are a nice idea, they are stupidly flawed in implementation,
> and generally blocked; not to mention horrifically buggy.
>
> While I would definitely like to see Kopete's Jabber support hugely
> improved (I've not had a home net connection for 5 months), I think that
> your suggestion is definitely not the way to go. Hardly any end-users
> use Jabber: they use MSN, ICQ, or AIM, depending what country they're
> in, and/or when they went to high school (Messenger is the shit here
> these days, but if you graduated from high school about 3 years ago, ICQ
> was the shit, and still is; apparently AIM is it in America).
>
> -d

 
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