From kde-devel  Sat Aug 31 21:12:03 2002
From: Nicolas Goutte <nicog () snafu ! de>
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 21:12:03 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: applnk notes
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=103082838925808

As far as I know, menu entries are compactible with GNOME. How does your plan 
affect the compactibility?

In future, we could also have application names that need to be translated, 
for example: "KOffice Word Processor" (as it was suggested last week.) Even 
now for some languages we have already transcripted names for the application 
names. Your system would sort the English names, not the locale names.

You seem also not to like the "first dir, then files" rule. I would prefer if 
you would not remove it (or at least if you would make it an option.)

Have a nice day/evening/night!

On Samstag, 31. August 2002 13:11, Thorsten Schnebeck wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I want to reorganize my KDE menus in a more structured way and kill
> programs from the menu I'm not interested in or which are double/multiple.
> (This seems to be quite popular these days ;-)
>
> Cause all mainmenu entries are sorted by the (english) dir names I renamed
> these entries:
>
> PIM ->01-PIM
> Office -> 02-Office
> Internet -> 03->Internet
> Applications -> 04-Applications
> ...
>
> This works great! Now the folders appear in an order I prefer.
> (The shown name depends on the NAME entry in the .directory file!)
> So next step was doing the same with the *.desktop files of a kmenu
> subdirectory, here 01-PIM:
>
> susi 01-PIM # ls -la
> insgesamt 28
> drwxrwxrwx    2 root     root          151 08-31 11:59 .
> drwxrwxrwx   18 root     root         4096 08-31 12:09 ..
> -rw-rw-rw-    1 root     root          422 08-31 10:31
> 01-korganizer.desktop -rw-rw-rw-    1 root     root          383 08-31
> 11:44 02-kaddressbook.desktop -rw-rw-rw-    1 root     root          284
> 08-31 11:43 03-knotes.desktop -rw-rw-rw-    1 root     root          326
> 08-31 11:41 04-kalarm.desktop -rw-rw-rw-    1 root     root          271
> 08-31 11:43 05-kgpg.desktop -rw-rw-rw-    1 root     root           44
> 08-31 11:43 .directory
>
> But now all the entries in this subdirectory are not sorted by the
> *.desktop-filename but by the NAME entry of the *.desktop file
> Another rule seems to be: first dirs, then files
>
> This is inconsistent. Would'nt it be better to let the sorting order in
> nested menu structures _only_ depend on the filename - for dirs _and_
> files?
>
> Pro's:
> All localizations have the same menu order in submenus,
> The new "More"-dirs in KDE3.1pre can be the last entry of a submenu
> (More -> zz-More),
> The menueditor can handle menu rearrangements independent of the NAME in
> *.desktop files,
> more flexible.
>
> Bye
>
>   Thorsten

 
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