From kde-devel  Mon Jul 01 14:51:29 2002
From: Stephan Kulow <coolo () kde ! org>
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 14:51:29 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: Screensavers
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=102553525902615

On Saturday 29 June 2002 02:26, Jamie Zawinski wrote:
> Karl Robillard wrote:
> > What is the status of KDE screensavers?
> > It seems like the same few boring savers have been part of KDE for ye=
ars.
> > Is there some reason that no one writes KDE screensavers?
>
> Because instead, they all write xscreensaver modules that work on all
> platforms and with all desktop frameworks?
>
> > (why are multiple configuration tools are bad?)
>
> Well it seems obvious to me that duplication of effort is bad.
> If you don't understand why, I doubt I could explain it.
>
> But from a more practical standpoint: I maintain xscreensaver.
> Who maintains the KDE reimplementation of it?  I suspect "nobody."
>
> > I've looked briefly at the GTK xscreensaver setup tool shipped with
> > RedHat 7.3 and there doesn't seem to be any GUI configuration for the
> > savers - you just type command line arguments in a string widget.
> > This doesn't seem suitable for either desktop project (GNOME/KDE).
>
> I don't know what Red Hat shipped with 7.3, but I think something
> went wrong on your system.  If you run xscreensaver 4.x on any GNOME
> system, the xscreensaver-demo program (which is one and the same as
> the "Screen Saver" page of the Gnome Control Center) will pop up a
> per-mode configuration dialog when you press the "Settings" button.
> There are sliders, checkboxes, option menus, etc for the various
> parameters of the selected mode.  And custom dialogs are defined (in
> XML) for every one of the 140+ modes.
>
> If you click the "advanced" button on *that* dialog, you can type in a
> command-line directly, but few people will ever do that.
>
> > How do I get my savers into the official KDE CVS tree?
>
> It's clear to me that instead, you should make them work with
> xscreensaver proper, and send them to me.  If they're any good, I'll
> include them in the next xscreensaver release.
Hi!

If you wrote the screensaver your own and you use the libkscreensaver=20
interface, then you can add them to KDE CVS if they are of any public=20
interest (someone once wrote a screensaver for his favorite TV series,
which I consider not general enough).

As xscreensaver support in KDE works great in CVS HEAD, it's no problem
either to create a xscreensaver module. But that's a mater of taste I gue=
ss
(e.g. xscreensaver has no support for translations last time I checked, w=
hich
was one reason we added a layer on top)

Currently the xscreensaver support in KDE uses a config format, that is=20
concurrent to the XML config files of xscreensaver (I don't know, but I d=
oubt
xscreensaver had XML config files back then), so I plan to use these XML=20
config files instead, so our translators can provide translations, that o=
ther=20
xscreensaver users can benefit from too. Is that ok with you, Jamie?

Greetings, Stephan

 
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