From kde-devel  Thu Nov 29 00:54:31 2001
From: Waldo Bastian <bastian () kde ! org>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:54:31 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: Show/Hide Toolbar / Statusbar GUI issue
X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=100699527127280

On Wednesday 28 November 2001 09:48 am, JES wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 November 2001 17:21, Stephan Binner wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 November 2001 15:22, JES wrote:
> > > I came to my thoughts when I pressed the right mousebutton in konso=
le.
> > > I get a menuitem "Show Menubar". When I click it, it _hides_ instea=
d of
> > > showing. Well, the same is with the Toolbar and Statusbar (in every
> > > app). They are a little different in this perspective while they ha=
ve a
> > > 'check'.
> >
> > Different? "Show Menubar" also "has a 'check'" - it just shows an ico=
n.
>
> For Toolbar and Statusbar, it's a clear 'V' , for Menubar, it's a pictu=
re
> (=3Dicon).
> I think it's better to set the text "Show" to "Hide" when it is selecte=
d. I
> think it's clearer for the user.

I think the "check" thingies work just fine. The problem starts when the =
item=20
has an icon, then the check isn't shown any more. I tend to think that we=
=20
should give preference to the "check"-item instead of the icon in those c=
ases=20
instead of the other way around, since the "check" item has the highest=20
information contents.

I know that the styles are supposed to make a subtle change to the icon w=
hen=20
it is checked or not, but that change is so subtle that I am not able to =
see=20
it. Pretty much like the (old?) Motif checkboxes, where you can see a=20
difference between checked and unchecked, but you don't get any clue as w=
hich=20
one is checked and which one is unchecked.

Cheers,
Waldo

 
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