From kde-cygwin  Sat Dec 18 14:04:52 2004
From: "Chris January" <chris () atomice ! net>
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:04:52 +0000
To: kde-cygwin
Subject: RE: Qt/Win32 name
Message-Id: <080c01c4e50a$8ba3fbb0$0207a8c0 () avocado>
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> On Saturday 18 December 2004 00:27, Ralf Habacker wrote:
> > On Friday 17 December 2004 17:28, Dave Brondsema wrote:
> > > Quoting Chris January <chrisjan@iomo.co.uk>:
> > > > All interested parties:
> > > >
> > > > For a while we have been calling our free edition of 
> Qt/Windows by 
> > > > the names Qt/Win32, Qt 3/Win32 or Qt 3 Win32. However I 
> think it 
> > > > would be a good idea to rename the project to reflect its free 
> > > > status and distinguish it from Trolltech's commercial 
> offering. So 
> > > > I'm after suggestions for a new name. Trolltech permits third 
> > > > parties to use the Qt mark so long as you are "clear 
> and accurate 
> > > > as to the nature of the relationship between Trolltech and your 
> > > > company, its products or services.". I'm thinking of something 
> > > > along the lines of Qt/Windows Free Edition* (* this 
> product is not 
> > > > released by Trolltech AS or affliated companies). 
> Suggestions and 
> > > > comments welcome.
> > >
> > > Their free version is called "Qt Open Source Edition".  It is 
> > > probably good that we use "free" instead of "open source" 
> to avoid 
> > > too much similarity.
> >
> > which would also goes more in the gpl direction -> 
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
> >
> > > Qt/Windows Free Edition sounds good,
> >
> > me too
> >

Seems Qt/Windows Free Edition has the vote. It emphasises the 'free as in
freedom' nature of our port as opposed to Trolltech's closed source Windows
product.

> > > but it is a bit long.  We could refer to it as Qt WFE.
> >
> > There are at least two areas where we have to see how to select the 
> > naming schema. 1. Full name
> >  QT/Windows Free Edition
> >   in relation to trolltechs
> >  QT/Mac Open source Edition
> >  QT/X11 Open source Edition
> >
> > 2. package naming schema
> >  qt-win-free-x.y.z
> >
> >   in relation to trolltechs
> >  qt-x11-free-x.y.z
> >
> > Here we have a name clash between trolltechs full name 
> definition and 
> > their package naming schema QT/X11 Open source Edition !> 
> > qt-x11-free.xyz QT/Windows Free Edition => qt-win-free.xyz
> > The only problem i see could be in the future, if trolltech 
> decides to
> > release a windows open source edition, which will be probably named
> > qt-win-free-x.y.z. Then the different editions are not  
> identifiable. Any
> > hints ?
> >
> i think if/when trolltech releases qt this way, we could 
> happily discontinue 
> our version of qt, so no problem any more...
> 
> :-)
> 
> Holger

I think if Trolltech release their own open source edition of Qt/Windows we
can revisit the package naming convention (assuming anyone is willing to
develop it anymore). In the mean time our package names shouldn't clash with
Trolltech's.

> 
> > 3. Shortcut
> >     Qt/WFE
> >
> > Is this really required ? I don't know if trolltech has 
> introduced any 
> > shortcut

I think the point David was making is that Qt/Windows Free Edition is a
little long winded to use in everyday communications so we need some kind of
abbreviation. Qt/WFE is ok, personally I'd prefer something like Qt/Win FE.
Trolltech's commercial edition could be referred to as Qt/Win Commercial,
Qt/Win Enterprise, Qt/Win NC, etc.

> >
> > > I don't know if we want to discuss versions now also..  
> The question 
> > > is how do we denote Qt version numbers and our release version 
> > > numbers.  For example, we may aim for compatibility with Qt 3.3.3 
> > > and make many releases, and then target 4.0 
> compatibility.  Perhaps 
> > > we could say "Qt 3.3.3 WFE 2", where 2 means our second 
> > > 3.3.3-compatible release.
> >
> > I think we are providing patch levels for a official qt 
> release, so I 
> > would suggest to name it patch release or similar. For patch levels 
> > there is a wellknown naming schema like Qt/Windows Free Edition 
> > 3.3.3-2 or using the filname schema qt-win-free-x.y.z-<patchlevel>.

I agree.

Chris

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