Hi, Yes, we have the kwmtheme client, and you're right, there is no kwmtheme.desktop file installed. The reason for this is that the theme manager traditionally sets the kde1 window manager themes (be that a good or a bad thing). This was the case since KDE 2.0. I was considering making a desktop file for it for KDE 2.2, but then I'd have to make a config plugin for it for kwindecoration so that users could add/remove the themes like for the IceWM client. Considering that most themes are bunched together with background images, etc., the config plugin would be a small replica of what the thememanager can do, thus decided against it for now. I think this is an example where KDE's themeing capabilities need improvement. Heck, I'm even planning a thememanager re-write. Anyone know the formats for the XP and windowblinds themes? Maybe I'll make them importable too for KDE3. Cheers, Karol (gallium) P.S. I apopogise in advance for the forthcoming double post - I accidentally sent this from a wrong email address, and hence got in the moder. queue. ;)