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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Preparing for KDE2.2beta1
From:       David Faure <david () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2001-06-09 9:49:40
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On Saturday 09 June 2001 12:38, Matthias Elter wrote:
> On Friday 08 June 2001 22:49, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:43:36AM +0200, Torsten Rahn wrote:
> > > Afterall there is still 9-10 days left until CVS is being tagged and
> > > this is a lot of time for fixing a lot of bugs. And beta doesn't mean
> > > bugfree of course. It only means that the release contains all
> > > features.
> > 
> > it doesn't make sense to release a beta when there are lots of known bugs
> > tho. Let's see how it looks in 9-10 days.
> 
> There always are lots of know bugs in a software project of this size. Just 
> have a look at bugs.kde.org. The beta should be released as planned and we 
> should target it to be a final beta.

Hmm, yes there are always bugs, but when things that used to work are
now completely broken, that's no good.

Kicker in particular is quite broken.
(See the other posts on this subject, plus the following)
I get very frequent crashes in kicker.
Last one was yesterday, when removing the (broken too) newsticker applet (loaded
with appletproxy).

0x400ae424 in force_to_data () from /mnt/perso/kde2dev/lib/kicker.so
(gdb) bt
#0  0x400ae424 in force_to_data () from /mnt/perso/kde2dev/lib/kicker.so
#1  0x40a7ea38 in QScrollView::addChild (this=0x81204c0, child=0x81fbed8, x=0, y=0) \
at widgets/qscrollview.cpp:1139 #2  0x40a7eae0 in QScrollView::moveChild \
(this=0x81204c0, child=0x81fbed8, x=0, y=0) at widgets/qscrollview.cpp:1155 #3  \
0x40062ea4 in ContainerArea::moveContainerSwitch () from \
/mnt/perso/kde2dev/lib/kicker.so #4  0x400628d6 in ContainerArea::mouseMoveEvent () \
from /mnt/perso/kde2dev/lib/kicker.so #5  0x409dc35a in QWidget::event \
(this=0x81204c0, e=0xbfffeeb0) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:3890 #6  0x40958316 in \
QApplication::notify (this=0xbffff350, receiver=0x81204c0, event=0xbfffeeb0)  at \
kernel/qapplication.cpp:1682 etc.

But I can't reproduce it now, so I don't know if this is of any use :(
The fact that when inserting that applet, kicker isn't full size anymore
(due to kasbar on the right) is very strange too (I guess this is the
problem Malte mentions).

KHTML has quite some regressions too, from form submission to JS crashes....

There's no point in releasing broken things in time.
Better fix and release later.

Just my 2 cents.

-- 
David FAURE, david@mandrakesoft.com, faure@kde.org
http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~david/, http://www.konqueror.org/
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