On Sat, 19 May 2001, Alex Zepeda wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 12:57:44AM -0700, Charles Samuels wrote: > > > How about you *report* bugs, or maybe even fix them? How much time do I > > look like I have? Could you really do any better? Have you actually used > > kaiman? > > If you don't have the time to maintain Noatun, just say so. This of > course would simplify the issue quite a bit. I think this whole thing is getting a bit out of hand. Lemme start with the remark that noatun is working for me without any real problem. (There's still the issue that the display window for movies starts up in the upper left corner regardless whether kicker is on the left-hand side.) No crashes, no startups without GUI. So I am a happy noatun user. Apparently, some user are experiencing problems. Some are not. Instead of shouted at each other or making snide remarks, both sides should get together and make both sides one again. ;-) I don't like Ralf shouting at Charles. I don't like Neils (?) calling Ralf someone who has yet to pick up how "real hackers" handle things. And now Alex is kicking in ( hi Alex, we usually do get along! ;-) and tells Charles how to work. Drop it guys. If something is working for one group but doesn't for another one there's something wrong. Get together and find out what causes the problems. Less fuel, more water or sand! ;-) Uwe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uwe Thiem Tel: +264 - 61 - 249249 P.O.Box 30955 Email: uwe@uwix.alt.na Windhoek uwe@kde.org Republic of Namibia http://www.kde.org ********************************** You can still escape from the GATES of hell: Use KDE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------