> > How about you *report* bugs, or maybe even fix them? How much time = do I > > look like I have? Could you really do any better? Have you actually = used > > kaiman? > No, I actually just stuck with xmms. That pretty much always works. Wh= en > it comes to reporting bugs most people (me included) when they can't e= ven > start seeing what they are missing they tend not to even bother report= ing > bugs. I as well as most people probably think: When the application > doesn't even start how good can it be? Why even bother? I'm not in any= > way attacking your effort, however if noatun isn't working it shouldn'= t > be in the kde packages never mind who hasn't fixed it? I update from the CVS and made another try. And it actually works! Looks= =20 really nice too, much better than kaiman. Just thought I should let you = know after all the negative feedback. It would be great if it could just= =20 be made to work stable for 2.2, I tried load/unloading a bunch of plugin= s=20 as well and it seems to work. Keep up the good work. /Mauritz GlobeCom AB