On Wednesday 16 May 2001 14:51, Ralf Nolden wrote: > The toplevel mode is not the default either :-) > BTW this feature was exactly thought for people that use apps with this > behavoir like Gimp. Gimp is one of the most widely used apps on Linux > and this will stay this way for the user. We're all talking from the > *Developers* point of view here, but not from the users. We should > accept that the users have different preferences and that we as > developers like it *different* which requires US to deselect features, > not all users IMHO. This is selfish if we all claim "let's put this off > by default because I can't handle it". We'll end of that we can do > everything but nobody's using it because we put it off by default. > Please follow tackat's suggestion to leave it on to see if we get > complaints by the users. Discussion closed, it will remain the default for Beta 1 to get more user= =20 feedback. Up to now I have not received any real complaints about this=20 feature. Only one user who did not like it was unable to find the=20 configuration option to turn it off. But I don't feel religious about thi= s=20 feature. The implementation was motivated by popular request. People were= =20 asking for task grouping. If it turns out that it confuses more users tha= n it=20 makes happy it will be off by default in KDE 2.2 final. Greetings, Matthias