Hi, out of experience (from this internet cafe here running with KDE 2.1.1) the users are *not* capable of understanding that starting applications may take some time. The result is that they click on the konqueror or netscape icon 5 or more times which slows down the machines (diskless clients) even more. So what is needed besides the taskbar start notification is to also set the cursor to wait cursor. A new hourglass cursor with a pointer a la windoze would be the best option, this one can be black and white so this shouldn't be a problem to do actually. But changing the cursor is *very* crucial. Ralf -- Finally, even I have to admit that being myself was the best thing that ever could have happened to me. - Le Grand Charmeur ********************************** Ralf Nolden The KDevelop Project http://www.kdevelop.org nolden@kde.org rnolden@kdevelop.org **********************************