On Tuesday 01 May 2001 10:29, Shawn Gordon wrote:
> At 10:13 AM 5/1/2001, you wrote:
> We've been trying to figure this out for weeks, communicating all over the
> place, we initiated all this discussion, the people that did the changes
> are the ones that didn't communicate.  

Sure.

> So is this your knee jerk response or the honest opinion of the KDE 
> Community?  

It is my opinion. I don't know what the opinion of others is.

> I'm fighting it at both ends here with my developers complaining 
> about the problems and some of you guys chewing me out and I'm in the 
> middle.

Get out of the way then ;-) Really, if your developers are subscribed to 
kde-cvs, koffice-devel and they keep track of CVS changes a bit you tend to 
notice when something breaks and then they can yell at whoever breaks it. You 
really don't need to do that for them. The impression that I get is that your 
developers are off on their own and that they sometimes copy stuff from 
somewhere in theKompany to KDE cvs and be done with it. (That's just an 
impression, I don't follow kivio very closely) If that's the case I don't see 
the point in having it in KDE cvs: having code in KDE cvs means that that 
should be the primary development forum (with exceptions for some support 
libs) if it isn't it shouldn't be there at all and you should just upload it 
to ftp.kde.org when it is ready.

> You guys want our stuff out, consider it gone, just say the word.

I prefer to see it as a part of KDE and being developed as a part of KDE. 
Removing it would be my second option. Just my opinion.

Cheers,
Waldo
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