> Anybody an idea? How does nsplugin determine the window id that is supp= osed > to be swallowed? It seems to know it somehow via Xt. But why is it > necessary top show the window first and then swallow it? Is netscape do= ing > that to get more flicker or just to slow everything down? But why does > konqueror do the same? Can u send me your pluggerrc please? You're running acroread with plugger= ,=20 right? Schimmi