On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:52:56PM -0700, Alex Zepeda wrote: > Without knowing too much of how these things work in X, is there no way > that the window manager can find these things out? No :( > 'Course another (RATHER EXTREME) idea would be to make an XFree86 patch. > This would work for all dynamicly linked X apps (and Netscape links > against the Xlibs dynamically, and well, the a.out X libs can still be > built....). I think the only safe way to solve this will be to come to an agreement with the Gnomes to set a property on the (first) mapped window of an application. Thankfully this is supposed to happen already thanks to the NET_WM standard. The other thing that needs to happen is that .desktop files carry an extra field stating whether they are ok for map-notification, i.e. if they promise to set the pid property when they map their first window. I'll write to the gnome-kde list about this. Rik