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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: PROPOSAL: "Mac" menubar as default
From:       mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2000-04-27 20:21:12
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"Robert D. Williams" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, mosfet wrote:
> > Torsten Rahn wrote:
> > > Kurt Granroth wrote:
> > > > Have you actually had somebody *time* you doing this?  That's one of
> > > > the things that piss off "real" UI folk... people often perceive speed
> > > > much differently then is really the case.  The only thing that matters
> > > > in the end is the stopwatch.
> > >
> > > Personally when I went to the institute of physics everyday I preferred
> > > the slightly longer way as it enriches my life by not being as deadly
> > > boring as the short-cut. The longer way "felt" shorter although
> > > it took me 10 minutes instead of 7 minutes. And this is important
> > > for users.
> > >
> > > People who use KDE don't stand there with a clock in their hands
> > > to measure what is faster. They will just use whatever feels faster.
> > >
> > > > Exactly!  That's why I want it to be the default.  Since most people
> > > > *won't* change the default, we should make sure that the defaults are
> > > > the best possible ones...
> > >
> > > And this "We-know-it-better-than-you-and-therefore-we-will-make-you-suck
> > > -it-down-your-long-long-throat"-approach is exactly the right way to
> > > make people feel angry and pissed off.
> >
> > Mac people don't seem to mind ;-) The Windows menubar default is shoving
> > the slower implementation down on Mac people's throat just as much as
> > the reverse.
> >
> 
> Since only KDE apps will support the mac menu bar, I do not see how we can
> made it the default.   I vote a big no.
> 
> And why is it so much faster with the menu bar at the top?  Seems like it
> would be slower to me.  Less mouse movement to get to the menubars as they
> are.

Less targeting, it's both always in the same position and it's on a
screen edge - thus easier to get to. UI designers rave about the Mac
style menus, as do their users.

> 
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> Robert Williams       rwilliams@jrc-utah.com
> Jarob Consulting      rwilliams@kde.org
> Provo, Utah           rwilliams71@excite.com
> USA

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