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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Fwd: Re: KDE keyboard feature
From:       Espen Sand <espen.sand () neo ! no>
Date:       2000-01-24 9:21:57
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On lør, 22 jan 2000, Richard Moore wrote:
>Waldo Bastian wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Waldo Bastian wrote:
>> 
>>   (I'm not on the core-devel list with posting permission so I can't
>>  send to it, and for some reason I can't subscribe to -devel at all...
>>  no idea why, so that's why I'm not cross-posting)
>> 
>> > >    I'm not sure if you're a good person to mail about this.  if
>> > > not, please direct me in the right direction.
>> > >
>> > >    Is there any way that support for keyboard modifiers other than
>> > > "CTRL, ALT and SHIFT" to be added to KDE2?  I have not played with
>> > > the code for KDE at all so I don't know how much work/how
>> > > difficult/how much impact there would be, but the reason I think it
>> > > would be useful is mainly for laptops.  Many laptops have an FN key
>> > > which actually behaves just like a keyboard modifier, and it would
>> > > be nice to be able to associate FN+key to KDE tasks, both in the
>> > > KDE core and in KHotKeys.  It seems like CTRL, ALT and SHIFT are
>> > > hardcoded in right now.  What do you think?
>> >
>> > I would love to see that happen and it shouldn't be too hard to add.
>> >
>> > Slightly related, there are also Mac people who would like to be able
>> > to exchange the roles of Alt and Ctrl. (This seems to be harder)
>> 
>>    Well I see with xmodmap that the modifiers are defined very
>>  distinctly as mod1-5.   I guess CTRL considered a modifier.  Perhaps
>>  we should keep CTRL as a common modifier across all systems and then
>>  have the rest dynamically chosen on a per-system basis based on this
>>  table?
>> 
>> mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_R (0x71)
>> mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
>> mod3
>
>What about the 'Windows' key? That is a modifier too.
>
>> mod4
>> mod5        Scroll_Lock (0x4e)
>> 
>>   How much work can you estimate for this?  As a side project, which
>>  might very well be related, I was thinking about making something like
>>  "kcmmodmap" which would make xmodmap graphically configurable, writing
>>  out the results to the custom .xmodmap.   As I said I haven't played
>
>Sounds like a good idea - it should be pretty easy to write too.
>
>Rich.
>
>>  with the kde core code at all, and I have written kde apps but no kde
>>  control modules.  I'm going to see what's involved in making control
>>  modules this weekend - ugh time time time.  I wish I had more
>>  time!#%$#%
>> 

Since you all talk about SHIFT, CTRL and ALT, "windows key" etc:
I have seen a number of keyboards recently that also have some extra buttons
marked such as "www", "volume" "eject"  etc. Can X detect these keys? Have 
anyone tried to run xev with this kind of keyboard? What happens?

-- 
Espen Sand

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