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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Viewing .desktop files in kdesktop - take 2
From:       Waldo Bastian <bastian () suse ! de>
Date:       1999-12-08 10:17:01
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On Tue, 07 Dec 1999, David Faure wrote:

> Fact :
> 
> * We all agree that we want to use the Name field, for .desktop files, in
> kdesktop - that's the "app launcher" part of kdesktop, and easier for i18n.

Yes.
 
> BUT let's look at what this implies
> 
> Renaming
> ========
> Problem : what you see on the desktop is not what appears as
> the file name.
> I assumed that this wouldn't change, hence the inconsistency.
> If kpropsdlg changes the filename _and_ the Name field, I think
> it's ok.

Changing the name should not imply changing the filename.
Changing the filename may (should?) imply changing the name.

> Creating a new .desktop file
> ============================
> Same problem (thanks Simon for bringing it up), same solution I think.

The name and filename can be set the same by default with the option for
the user to make them different. KDE 1.x behaviour.
 
> Opening a .desktop file in a text editor or anything else
> =========================================================
> Ok, the inconsistency appears, but after all the user is starting
> to have a look at the internals here.

I don't care what happens in that case.

> What happens in konqueror
> =========================
> Here I really don't know.
> Same ? 

The same. 

And for those who insist that konqueror should reflect 1:1 the contents
of their harddisk we can have an option which makes konqy show real
filenames instead of translated Names.

I really think an option is needed here because the average user is
IMO not very interested in filenames. People in the power user category
however tend to dislike this kind of "Magic" and want to see real files.
(Possibly because they started to use Unix because of these cryptic
commands in the first place)

Make it an option and everyone is happy.

> Different ? 
> Difficult to choose since both are inconsistent
> (same = inconsistent with other file managers, different = inconsistent
>  with kdesktop...)
> When opening up ~/Desktop we might expect the same, but think
> that in konqueror you can also view $KDEDIR/share/applnk,
> and there you probably want to see filenames... because you went
> there to do file management.

Or application management.

Cheers,
Waldo

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