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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Proposal: package split
From:       Cristian Tibirna <ctibirna () total ! net>
Date:       1999-10-03 19:59:12
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Hi

I personally *strongly* support Harri's idea and I was intending to make
this discussed at KDE-TWO if I was able to go (along with other
organizational issues).

I believe making choices between currently CVS-ed apps with similar
functionality is a particularly wrong solution.

First of all, KDE should become *much* smaller in the future (in what
concerns main downloading action). KDELibs and KDEBase (carefully
reorganized) should come in a very easy-to-install form and then an
organizing application should be offered which will help the user to
install all supplementary packages he needs from an easy to use interface,
with connections to both local and remote filesystems.

That will mean no utils, no network apps in the first turn. The user will
then be able to tune his KDE environment easily.

The strongest argument in favor of Harri's proposal is kppp, which in
30-40% of the installments of KDE (ethernet machimes) isn't needed at all
(but still is currently installed).

The strongest arguments against your proposal are the kbiff/korn and the
kedit/kwrite examples. These pairs of apps are offering generally similar
functions but fundamentally different functionalities. Who are we to shove
down the people our subjective choice in these cases. If korn is dropped
from kdenetwork I and many others will be very upset. If kbiff is dropped,
Kurt and many more will be very upset. And this is right on behalf of both
groups.

My too many cents...

Cristian

 On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Dirk A. Mueller wrote:

> Harri Porten <porten@tu-harburg.de> wrote:
> 
> > A good example for discussing this topic.
> 
> right, there is too much duplication in the CVS packages. IMHO it would
> be the best to decide which one we want to keep in the "main
> distribution" and we should create alternative packages for the others
> or drop them completely (not everything needs to be maintained in CVS).
> 
> examples:
> 
> kvt/konsole
> kicker/kpanel
> kcheckpass/kdesu
> kedit/kwrite
> kbiff/korn
> krn/kexpress
> kmail/empath
> kpm/ktop
> kjots/knotes
> 
> IMHO we should decide what variant to keep and either move the others
> to other packages or drop them. It would be surely a good thing to keep
> the most successful apps in CVS and drop the others (i.e. compare kvirc
> with ksirc).
> 
> If we drop the duplicates we have much more package space that could be
> filled with interesting programs that are currently distributed
> separately. We should distribute programs for as many purposes as
> possible and not trying to maintain so many duplicates.
> 
> 
> comments ?
> 
> -- 
> Dirk A. Mueller
> 
> 

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