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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: A new framework for embedding ... without CORBA
From:       Reginald Stadlbauer <reggie () troll ! no>
Date:       1999-09-29 9:41:41
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Matthias Elter wrote:
>On Mit, 29 Sep 1999, Reginald Stadlbauer wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Matthias Elter wrote:
>> >On Mit, 29 Sep 1999, Reginald Stadlbauer wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Waldo Bastian wrote:
>> >> >On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Simon Hausmann wrote:
>> >> >> > So instead of moving to an open standard for desktop components we move
>> >> >> > closer to a Qt/TrollTech-only solution? 
>> >> >
>> >> >[Snip]
>> >> >
>> >> >> So this is no removal of an open desktop component standard IMHO, the idea
>> >> >> of components remains! It's just a matter of using fast and efficient C++
>> >> >> interfaces and shared libraries instead of CORBA.
>> >> >
>> >> >Like I said: We're moving to a proprietary Qt solution instead of to a solution
>> >> >based on open standards. I find that a sad development.
>> >> 
>> >> But everybody who played (I can't say used) embedding in current OpenParts,
>> >> knows that it is not useable at all (It _never_ really worked!!!!). So as long
>> >> as we use that, embedding is just a dream but can't be used. So I think a
>> >> working and fast solution is preferable over a slow, unstable, not really
>> >> useable one.
>> >
>> >Embedding works for me and is quite useable. And as I mentioned earlier there
>> >are ways for performance improvements other than dropping the IDL interface.
>> 
>> Come on! Embedding crashes a lot! And if it doesn't crash, embed 20 parts in
>> KPresenter, save it and load it. If it doesn't crash during that, you will
>> notice how slow it is.
>
>Yes embedding 20 parts is slow...but dropping the IDL interface is not the only
>way to improve performance. And yes it crashes a lot but...it's alpha and

But it's the same now for a year or so!

>what makes you think that a shared libs solution is naturally more stable?

I just remember back when we started KOffice with a shared lib solution
embedding was really stable and damn fast. Then the CORBA stuff started and it
got slow, bloated and unstable. And Torben's new stuff is again very fast and
crashed not a single time when I played with it yesterday.

-- 
Reggie

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