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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Koko in KDEReview
From:       Adriaan de Groot <groot () kde ! org>
Date:       2021-05-04 14:53:39
Message-ID: 1998050.x0N0T6uNKo () beastie ! bionicmutton ! org
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On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 15:50:27 CEST Halla Rempt wrote:
> On Tuesday, 4 May 2021 15:28:30 CEST Nate Graham wrote:
> > I don't see anyone really trying to argue otherwise.
> 
> I have certainly made that argument many times. Since only developers can
> add tags, it will be impossible for ordinary users to provide enough
> information to classify the bug. Tagging systems suck big-time. Looking it
> GIMP's gitlab issues shows that not even the OS is reliably tagged!

What Halla said. Every time we have this conversation, Krita is the special 
case, because it *is* a special case -- many many users, diverse platforms, 
non-technical bug-reports. We must not discount Krita's experiences and needs 
-- conversely not ignore the needs of some obscure edge-case tool that is only 
going to get FreeBSD sysadmins to file bug reports (which might be *fine* in 
GitLab issues, because there's only ever 3 users).

Any migration **has** to be able to handle huge numbers of issues, and also 
provide maintainers tools to manage them, and to handle the diversity of issue 
meta-data that bugzilla handles.

To move this conversation forward, we'd need a concrete example of "these are 
the tools used to manage issue lifecycle, similar to how bugs lifecycle in 
bugzilla works". I know Harald has built tools and views and things to help 
out there, but we do need a .. well, a concrete proposal for how things would 
work.

That it's **possible** to manage a gazillion issues in GitLab  (maybe EE 
features, though) can be seen by looking at https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/
gitlab/-/issues GitLab issues in GitLab: there's 37 thousand of them, but 
there's also 78 pages of labels at https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/
labels to pick from. I suspect there's a non-0 amount of FTE's doing bug-
labeling -- can we afford that?

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