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On Friday, 2014-05-09, 12:44:18, John Layt wrote:
> On 9 May 2014 10:07, Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:

> > And in the meantime, the GTK developers themselves have made pretty=
 clear
> > that GTK is for Gnome applets, not big cross-platform desktop
> > applications:
> > https://lwn.net/Articles/562856/.
> >=20
> > " GTK+ is primarily intended to be used on the GNOME desktop, using=
 X11 as
> > the backend."
> >=20
> > "GTK+ must focus on being the toolkit of the GNOME platform first, =
and
> > tackle integration second."
>=20
> Thanks for that link, it explains things very nicely.  Between their
> lack of resources and the "GnomeOS" philosophy it will be interesting=

> to see how they respond to our approaches: in the article they clearl=
y
> state only a mass rebellion from Gtk's users would prompt them to
> focus on cross-desktop/platform improvements.  I can't help but wonde=
r
> if the "implement it without a fallback" approach was partly intended=

> to force other WMs into supporting CSD their way?
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> Gnome is looking more and more like a walled garden these days, I
> really don't understand how they think that's the best way to win new=

> users, but then I'm a pragmatist at heart.

It is probably a matter of conserving resources.

From=20their perspective the available options could be
* fantastic experience on one primary platform
vs
* usual/acceptable experience everywhere

Given a greater number of developers they might not have to chosse at a=
ll, but=20
that's currently not the case.

Cheers,
Kevin
=2D-=20
Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring

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