On 9 May 2014 10:04, Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin <mgraesslin@kde.org> wrote:
>
> XFCE is affected in that way that GTK developers opened bug reports again=
st
> XFCE that their window manager is broken (stating it's the only one not
> supporting that, well KWin neither).

That's not exactly the way to win friends and influence people :-)

> I'm not sure whether it's opt-in. Using the gtk3-demo and the gallery one=
 can
> find many examples which enforce client-side-decorations. E.g. the standa=
rd
> message box dialog example.

If the standard dialogs have it forced, then that does become a big
issue.  If an app chooses to not work cross-desktop that's their
problem, but if an app that wants to be cross-desktop suddenly finds
the standard dialogs don't work then that's a bad thing.

John.