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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: openSUSE packagers' take on the 3 month release cycle
From:       Philip Muskovac <yofel () gmx ! net>
Date:       2013-07-09 10:40:41
Message-ID: 3578534.UZFkq8hTfx () yofel-t510
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On Tuesday 09 July 2013 12:03:30 Àlex Fiestas wrote:
> On Monday 08 July 2013 20:35:22 Luca Beltrame wrote:
> > (apologies for breaking your threading, but I'm not subscribed to k-c-d; in
> > fact, please CC me with replies, thanks!)
> > 
> > Currently, the people working on openSUSE packages are against the proposal.
> > A detailed explanation follows.
> > 
> > First and foremost, the KDE packaging in openSUSE is almost completely
> > community driven. This means that most of the work is done by volounteers
> > which handle what they can in their (limited) time. Faster releases may mean
> > worse packaging and increased maintenance (and I think this is also an
> > issue w/most non rolling distros).
> Well, KDE is also ran by volunteers doing what they can in their limited time.  
> If we can achieve 3 month releases, meaning developing features, promo, i18n, 
> etc I'm sure you can package it as well.
> 
> My question to you (all distro people) is, what can we do to help? and what is 
> more interesting, what can you do, distro people, to help yourselves?
> 
> I see at least a duplicated effort across all distros which is  
> "adding/figuring out" new dependencies. Can't we coordinate on that so 
> everybody life is easier?

The release team already asks project maintainers to update their dependency \
information short before beta1 gets out. Maybe they could CCMAIL the release team so \
we packagers can get a dependency update list 2 or 3 days before the beta is \
published? That would certainly speed things up on our side as work on kde wouldn't \
be blocked by updating dependencies.

> 
> Also, what can we do, upstream to make this happen? so far what I read in this 
> thread is "This doesn't work perfectly for us, -1", what I'd love to read is a 
> "This as it is won't work for us, but if we do X and Y and Z, maybe we can do 
> it".
> 
> Cheers.

Philip


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