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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Re: Re: Re: New lockscreen
From:       Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= <mgraesslin () kde ! org>
Date:       2013-01-11 10:37:43
Message-ID: 3703176.GOJ2IiEove () martin-desktop
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On Friday 11 January 2013 10:47:40 Martin Sandsmark wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:28:22AM +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > and what has protecting the screen against burn-ins to do with security?
> > Nothing, right.
> 
> Which is why the lock screen has usually been activated separately from the
> screensaver.
no, it wasn't. The lock screen had been implemented inside the screen savers. 
Yes blank screen was just another kind of screensavers.
> 
> > Btw. we are not the only ones who go the way of removing screen savers in
> > favor of lock screens. The same happened at GNOME and at Microsoft. So
> > somehow the people working on such features came all independently to the
> > same conclusion.
> 
> Windows 8 still has screensavers AFAIK?
yes in the same way as we have screensavers. As a legacy option
> 
> And Gnome is not something to be emulated in the least bit, IMHO.
which is not what I wrote.
> 
> > Yes sure there are still CRTs around, there are Plasma screens around and
> > somewhen in the future OLEDs might be used which show the problem. Does
> > that mean that we should use a default (because that's what it's all
> > about) which is not optimal for the 99.9 % of our user base that actually
> > uses LCD screens?
> Where on earth did you pull that statistic from? And while your arguments
> may be in favour of using a blank screensaver by default, I think something
> that is optimal for 100% of our users is better than 99.9%, and I think you
> agree.
> > and again that is orthogonal. There is nothing preventing anyone to add an
> > animation to the lock screen.
> 
> Sure, let's just make sure it works properly.
> 
> > As I wrote it's a HACK and has always been like that.
> 
> Well, they have always been known as screen hacks, yes, but mostly because
> they are clever graphical hacks AFAIK. :-P
> 
> --
> Martin Sandsmark

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