> > Debian Stable (Squeeze) is also 4.5 by default. > > Debian Stable (Squeeze) is 4.4.5 by default, with GCC 4.3.5 being > provided too. Yes, that is the reason I excluded Debian from the distros to watch in this case. Debian stable will not ship 4.10 in any form, and from my experience, people who use debian on the desktop, and care about having latest kde packages, use testing or sid. (myself included) Cheerio -- I don't really trust a sane person. -- Lyle Alzado