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Subject: Re: [Nepomuk] The Nepomuk Situation
From: Vishesh Handa <me () vhanda ! in>
Date: 2012-05-16 18:35:17
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What about kdelibs/nepomuk/utils/* and the other ui stuff?
Or since those are just APIs they can wait.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg@kde.org> wrote:
> I now prepared the required repositories:
>
> scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-kio
> contains the 3 Nepomuk kio slaves
>
> scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-config
> contains the KCM and the controller systray app
>
> The question is: where should we move them? Something like "KDE/Base"?
> I suppose questions like these have already been discussed with respect
> to KDE5?
>
> Cheers,
> Sebastian
>
> On 05/07/2012 03:58 PM, Sebastian Trüg wrote:
> > On 05/07/2012 03:47 PM, ivan.cukic@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Maybe there could be something like qt has - BEGIN_NEPOMUK_NAMESPACE...
> So that if the same needs to be done in the future, we could just change
> the macro value.
> >
> > That would be much more work since each cpp file has the namespaces in
> > the method definitions.
> >
> >> I don't know, thinking that Nepomuk2 namespace is looking rather ugly :)
> >
> > it is indeed.
> >
> >> The dirtiest solution library-wise would be to have everything in
> NepomukCore::Nepomuk::Something so that the only change in the current code
> of nepomuk users would be a using namespace NepomukCore;
> >>
> >> Sorry for being a bit vague, I'm writing from my phone.
> >>
> >> Cheerio,
> >> IvanOn 7.5.12. 14.49 Vishesh Handa wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg@kde.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 05/07/2012 02:35 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Sebastian Trüg <trueg@kde.org
> >>
> >>> <mailto:trueg@kde.org>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 05/07/2012 12:09 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > So, we're down to 3 options -
> >>> >
> >>> > *1.* nepomuk-core become a dependency of kdelibs. Kdelibs is not
> >>> touched.
> >>> > *Problem:* Overlapping headers and possible mysterious crashes
> if both
> >>> > libraries are loaded.
> >>> >
> >>> > *2.* nepomuk-core installs headers under nepomuk2. It's released
> >>> > independently.
> >>> > *Problem:* Mysterious crashes if both libraries are loaded.
> >>> >
> >>> > *3.* nepomuk-core installs headers under nepomuk2 and the
> namespace is
> >>> > changed to nepomuk2.
> >>> > *Problem:* A lot more work :(
> >>>
> >>> Well, I suppose we could make this work with some sed magic. :P
> >>> I would vote for option 3 which could then be reverted (or not) for
> >>> kde5.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would prefer option 2.
> >>>
> >>> The mysterious crashes would only happen if an application's plugin
> >>> links to the incorrect libraries.
> >>>
> >>> Is that a possibility for us?
> >>
> >>
> >> I already experienced that. Took me a while to find the reason.
> >>
> >>
> >> Alright.
> >>
> >> I would like the Nepomuk2 namespace and include directories be removed
> for the frameworks, but I guess it is not a big deal if that doesn't happen.
> >>
> >> ----
> >>
> >> Okay, everyone. This is the point where you chime in and say - "We're
> okay with this" or you raise your objections. We would like to get this
> mess sorted in time for the 4.9 release.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nepomuk mailing list
> > Nepomuk@kde.org
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk
> _______________________________________________
> Nepomuk mailing list
> Nepomuk@kde.org
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk
>
--
Vishesh Handa
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What about kdelibs/nepomuk/utils/* and the other ui stuff?<br><br>Or since those are \
just APIs they can wait.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 16, 2012 at \
11:49 PM, Sebastian Trüg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trueg@kde.org" \
target="_blank">trueg@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">I now prepared the required repositories:<br> <br>
scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-kio<br>
contains the 3 Nepomuk kio slaves<br>
<br>
scratch/trueg/nepomuk-kde-config<br>
contains the KCM and the controller systray app<br>
<br>
The question is: where should we move them? Something like "KDE/Base"?<br>
I suppose questions like these have already been discussed with respect<br>
to KDE5?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Sebastian<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 05/07/2012 03:58 PM, Sebastian Trüg wrote:<br>
> On 05/07/2012 03:47 PM, <a \
href="mailto:ivan.cukic@gmail.com">ivan.cukic@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br> >> Maybe \
there could be something like qt has - BEGIN_NEPOMUK_NAMESPACE... So that if the same \
needs to be done in the future, we could just change the macro value.<br> ><br>
> That would be much more work since each cpp file has the namespaces in<br>
> the method definitions.<br>
><br>
>> I don't know, thinking that Nepomuk2 namespace is looking rather ugly \
:)<br> ><br>
> it is indeed.<br>
><br>
>> The dirtiest solution library-wise would be to have everything in \
NepomukCore::Nepomuk::Something so that the only change in the current code of \
nepomuk users would be a using namespace NepomukCore;<br> >><br>
>> Sorry for being a bit vague, I'm writing from my phone.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheerio,<br>
>> IvanOn 7.5.12. 14.49 Vishesh Handa wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Sebastian Trüg <<a \
href="mailto:trueg@kde.org">trueg@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> >><br>
>> On 05/07/2012 02:35 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Sebastian Trüg <<a \
href="mailto:trueg@kde.org">trueg@kde.org</a><br> >><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:trueg@kde.org">trueg@kde.org</a>>> \
wrote:<br> >>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 05/07/2012 12:09 PM, Vishesh Handa wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> > So, we're down to 3 options -<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *1.* nepomuk-core become a dependency of kdelibs. Kdelibs is \
not<br> >>> touched.<br>
>>> > *Problem:* Overlapping headers and possible mysterious crashes \
if both<br> >>> > libraries are loaded.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *2.* nepomuk-core installs headers under nepomuk2. It's \
released<br> >>> > independently.<br>
>>> > *Problem:* Mysterious crashes if both libraries are loaded.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *3.* nepomuk-core installs headers under nepomuk2 and the \
namespace is<br> >>> > changed to nepomuk2.<br>
>>> > *Problem:* A lot more work :(<br>
>>><br>
>>> Well, I suppose we could make this work with some sed magic. :P<br>
>>> I would vote for option 3 which could then be reverted (or not) \
for<br> >>> kde5.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I would prefer option 2.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The mysterious crashes would only happen if an application's \
plugin<br> >>> links to the incorrect libraries.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Is that a possibility for us?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I already experienced that. Took me a while to find the reason.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Alright.<br>
>><br>
>> I would like the Nepomuk2 namespace and include directories be removed for \
the frameworks, but I guess it is not a big deal if that doesn't happen.<br> \
>><br> >> ----<br>
>><br>
>> Okay, everyone. This is the point where you chime in and say - \
"We're okay with this" or you raise your objections. We would like to \
get this mess sorted in time for the 4.9 release.<br> >><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> \
_______________________________________________<br> > Nepomuk mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Nepomuk@kde.org">Nepomuk@kde.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk</a><br> \
_______________________________________________<br> Nepomuk mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Nepomuk@kde.org">Nepomuk@kde.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/nepomuk</a><br> \
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><span \
style="color:rgb(192,192,192)">Vishesh Handa</span><br><br>
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